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Brokeback Mountain

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#1 of 57

     Posted 12/29/05 8:22 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  All      [Msg # 20540.1 ]    

BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN

Reviewed by Harvey S. Karten
Focus Features
Grade: C+
Directed by: Ang Lee
Written by: Larry McMurty, Diana Ossana, short story by E. Annie Proulx
Cast: Heath Ledger, Jake Gyllenhaal, Randy Quaid, Anne Hathaway, Michelle Williams
Screened at: Loews Lincoln Square, NYC, 12/10/05

If “Brokeback Mountain” looks like the favorite to win the Academy’s Best Picture designation, there’s evidence that bandwagon psychology is at work. Ang Lee’s film is perhaps the most overrated one of the year, called a masterpiece by such illustrious critics as Rex Reed, and a four-star production by Roger Ebert. Sometimes one gets the idea that to win accolades from some critics–and also for regular views in the audience who want to seem hip–all a film-maker has to do is knock out a work that’s distinct from the usual melodramas and silly romances that blight the screen week in, week out. While something can be said for Ang Lee’s treatment of a large theme in the America of the twenty-first century, the picture as a whole is static, with Heath Ledger’s cranking out his lines in such a low tone and with a peculiar (western?) accent that some of the words flirt with incomprehensibility.

Speaking of flirting, “Brokeback Mountain” has been called a “gay cowboy” movie, which it is, but thematically it’s more. Its principal theme is a common one in literature and cinema, the frustration that arises when people are unwilling or unable to express their true feelings. You repress who you are to such an extent that your life turns into what one character says in Henry Jaglom’s “Going Shopping”: “If you don’t do what you are meant to do and avoid taking risks, you’re destined to live with a life of Thursdays.”

E. Annie Proulx’s short story, adapted for the screen by Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana, opens in Wyoming in 1963, where two young men not yet out of their teens are hired to guard a flock of sheep, to protect the animals from coyote predators during the summer. Ennis Del Mar (Heath Ledger) and Jack Twist (Jake Gyllenhaal) with just each other, their dog and the sheep for company, gain nutritional sustenance from beans. No self-respecting New Yorker would last more than three days. Ennis is close-lipped, therefore more likely to put up with the strange nature of the job, while Jack is the more outgoing. In the movie’s most talked-about scene, Ennis and Jack share a tent and cling to each other for warmth, and, with one thing leading to another, have a go at each other, each assuring the other that he is not gay. They part at the end of the summer with a quick “see ya around,” but are unlikely to be rehired by their boss, Joe (Randy Quaid), who spots them leaving the sheep unguarded.

Just when you think their homosexuality is quiescent since both later marry (their wives played by Michelle Williams and Anne Hathaway), the two men, now four years older, meet in Wyoming and begin taking “fishing trips” together–though Ennis’s wife wonders why her man never brings home any fish. The film turns melodramatic as Jack, realizing he is gay, goes to male hookers in Mexico, his trip ending up with unforseen consequences.

Taiwan-born director Ang Lee, who came to America in his early twenties, is best known by “regular” film-goers for his crowd-pleasing “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon” and by the more committed crowd for “Eat Drink Man Woman,” contributed his best work “The Ice Storm,” in 1997. That film was based on an actual ice storm in 1973 and how it parallels activities in the posh suburbs of New Canaan, Connecticut. Like his current offering, “The Ice Storm” chronicles sexuality. While cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto captures majestic western mountain views, “Brokeback Mountain” is inert, while dealing with subject matter that might have been titillating in the sixties but yawned-at by anyone in the audience with a modicum of sophistication.

Rated R. 134 minutes © 2006 by Harvey Karten
harveycritic@cs.com Member: NY Film Critics Online

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#2 of 57

     Posted 12/30/05 11:57 AM   
srfrgrl803
 
From  srfrgrl803  Posts 684  Last Jan-25
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 20540.2 Message 20540.2 replying to 20540.1 20540.1 ]    

Some people just can't go on vacation.  LOL!

I appreciate the review - interesting viewpoint about critics though not surprising.  Actually you make the film sound better than I imagined it would be.

 

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#3 of 57

     Posted 12/30/05 1:54 PM   
newleveler
 
From  newleveler  Posts 2  Last 1/8/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 20540.3 Message 20540.3 replying to 20540.1 20540.1 ]    
the movie Jarhead stank because it had the same wimpy actors as broke-mind mt.... Broke back just sounds like a nasty title.. like they broke their backs or something?.  The movie is an embarrassment to the US. why does the media skum hype it up? No wonder why they think the world hates America.  U dont have to hate gays but not everyone has to like them. Y force gay on everything. They should of made the cowboys black if they really wanted it to be a 'sign of the times!"  Wheres the "diversity?'  Lmao.-  Acting is a joke profession. Who pays these ppl.?
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#4 of 57

     Posted 12/31/05 2:30 AM   
DonTom
 
From  DonTom  Posts 83  Last Dec-6
To  newleveler      [Msg # 20540.4 Message 20540.4 replying to 20540.3 20540.3 ]    (Unread)

" Y force gay on everything. "

You have that backwards. The majority of heterosexuals force heterosexuality on gays. For one example, those who are gay may only legally marry the opposite sex.

But gays are not trying to stop heterosexual marriage.

                                                                        -Don-

 

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#5 of 57

     Posted 12/31/05 11:01 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  DonTom      [Msg # 20540.5 Message 20540.5 replying to 20540.4 20540.4 ]    
Hmmm. Interesting way to look at the situation, Don--that heteros try
to force their preferences on gays rather than the other way
around. -Harvey
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#6 of 57

     Posted 1/1/06 8:31 PM   
HIGHCOTTONQUINN
 
From  HIGHCOTTONQUINN  Posts 179  Last 6/22/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 20540.6 Message 20540.6 replying to 20540.1 20540.1 ]    (Unread)

Another propaganda film from Hollywood and yet they still can't figure out why the box office is in such decline. The critics loathed The Passion of the Christ but they love Bareback Mountin' well surprise surprise. I guess Hollywood has finally found a cowboy(actually they're sheepherders)they can actually get behind and support.

 Americans didn't want gay marriage so now Hollywood will show us how "closeminded, bigoted"..etc. we are. I love how Follywood continues to denigrate and crap all over traditional american culture and then tell us that we're the ones with the problem. I think Hollywood's idea of customer service stinks.

 

 

 

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill


Edited 1/1/06   by  HIGHCOTTONQUINN
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#7 of 57

     Posted 1/2/06 4:08 PM   
Don D. (Sysop)
 
From  Don D. (Sysop)  Posts 3599  Last 11/26/08
To  HIGHCOTTONQUINN      [Msg # 20540.7 Message 20540.7 replying to 20540.6 20540.6 ]    (Unread)

  "The critics loathed The Passion of the Christ "

Didja ever think that was because it's a crappy movie?

But re: Brokeback Mountain, "Seinfeld" co-creator Larry David said he's one of the heterosexual males who will decline to see the movie. In a piece he wrote for the "New York Times" he said, in part:

"Who's to say I won't become enamored with the whole gay business? Let's face it, there is some appeal there. I know I've always gotten along great with men. ... And gay guys always seem like they're having a great time. At the Christmas party I went to, they were the only ones who sang. Boy that looked like fun. I would love to sing, but this weighty, self-conscious heterosexuality I'm saddled with won't permit it. I just know if I saw that movie, the voice inside my head that delights in torturing me would have a field day. 'You like those cowboys, don't you? They're kind of cute. Go ahead, admit it, they're cute. You can't fool me, gay man. Go ahead, stop fighting it. You're gay! You're gay!' Not that there's anything wrong with it."

--Don


Edited 1/2/06   by  Don D. (Sysop)
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#8 of 57

     Posted 1/2/06 4:23 PM   
naiinisnako
 
From  naiinisnako  Posts 1  Last 1/2/06
To  HIGHCOTTONQUINN      [Msg # 20540.8 Message 20540.8 replying to 20540.6 20540.6 ]    (Unread)

Fine. You won't let gay people love and marry each other. They will marry your daughters and sisters just to fit in your idea of a "normal" world. The consequences, just like in the movie, will be on your conscience (if you have one.)

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#9 of 57

     Posted 1/4/06 1:06 PM   
srfrgrl803
 
From  srfrgrl803  Posts 684  Last Jan-25
To  Don D. (Sysop)      [Msg # 20540.9 Message 20540.9 replying to 20540.7 20540.7 ]    

Funny quote from the NY Times.  It's difficult enough for some men to admit they have a feminine side, let alone embrace a movie about gay cowboys.  As great a guy as my husband is, there is no way he will want to see the movie.  I'll go to see it when he's on a business trip.

(I agree with you about Passion of the Christ - it sucked!  I expected more after all the hype.  I enjoyed The Robe more as far as that genre goes.)

 

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#10 of 57

     Posted 1/4/06 3:42 PM   
Don D. (Sysop)
 
From  Don D. (Sysop)  Posts 3599  Last 11/26/08
To  srfrgrl803      [Msg # 20540.10 Message 20540.10 replying to 20540.9 20540.9 ]    

  "As great a guy as my husband is, there is no way he will want to see the movie. "

That weighty, self-conscious heterosexuality strikes again!

--d

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#11 of 57

     Posted 1/8/06 1:44 PM   
Tom Norris
 
From  Tom Norris  Posts 902  Last 12/20/07
To  newleveler      [Msg # 20540.11 Message 20540.11 replying to 20540.3 20540.3 ]    (Unread)

<<The movie is an embarrassment to the US. why does the media skum hype it up? No wonder why they think the world hates America.  >>

  Actually, I'd be willing to bet that Brokeback will be more popular overseas and make more money there than the domestic run here.

 

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#12 of 57

     Posted 1/8/06 2:16 PM   
Tom Norris
 
From  Tom Norris  Posts 902  Last 12/20/07
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 20540.12 Message 20540.12 replying to 20540.1 20540.1 ]    (Unread)

Harvey,

<<“Brokeback Mountain” is inert, while dealing with subject matter that might have been titillating in the sixties but yawned-at by anyone in the audience with a modicum of sophistication.>>

  But a lot of people who see this film in the suburban 'plexes and elsewhere, further into the hinterland, aren't sophisticated and are seeing this film in large part for titillation (Heath and Jake doing it...).  My audience was made up mostly of groups of younger women in the 18 to 25 bracket.  I saw it in a middle to working class suburban Boston 'plex.  The strongest reaction to the film was giggly female laughter when the two leads embrace in view of Ennis's wife.  In a sense, a lot of people are back in the sixties at least as far as this subject matter is concerned.

  I traveled through Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming in the early seventies.  This film captures that time and place amazingly well.  They did have a kind of emotional inertness then, in the sense that many people were restrained about their feelings.  I think it was a characteristic of the times particularly for men.

  A lot of Hollywood types passed on this film.  It took Ang Lee to realize it.  (Like yourself, I very much liked "The Ice Storm."  I was back in New England in late '73, the era of the film and it sure captured that era.) 

  Brokeback is actually a very conservative film if you consider what happened to the two main characters. 

  Tom


Edited 1/8/06   by  Tom Norris

Edited 1/10/06   by  Tom Norris

Edited 1/16/06   by  Tom Norris
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#13 of 57

     Posted 1/16/06 7:49 AM   
mems70
 
From  mems70  Posts 10  Last 3/7/06
To  All      [Msg # 20540.13 Message 20540.13 replying to 20540.1 20540.1 ]    
This movie stunk to high heaven!!! Gay, sexual content, language, and to think one of my best actors, Heath Ledger, played the part, makes me more disgusted.  I am sick of what is showing in movies these days, leaving nothing, absolutely nothing to the imagination!  Sorry, I wasted my money on this one!   Phew, Phew, Phew!   If the gays want this kind of movie, then may I suggest that they harbor it in their own TV or have their own movie house!  I am very disappointed, and no, I don't think this should be anywhere near the top of the hotest movies!  PHEW, PHEW, PHEW!!  I spend a lot of money seeing movies, and my curiosity got me to see this one!  Yuk..................
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#14 of 57

     Posted 1/17/06 8:51 AM   
NancyC,
 
From  NancyC,  Posts 94  Last 4/12/09
To  srfrgrl803      [Msg # 20540.14 Message 20540.14 replying to 20540.9 20540.9 ]    
As great a guy as my husband is, there is no way he will want to see the movie.
My  husband and I saw it.  He thought the acting was great and that they would get Academy Award nominations, but he didn't like the movie.  I really did like the movie, but I wouldn't see it again, because it's rather depressing and because I now know the ending.

I do think it is probably a difficult movie for many American heterosexual males to watch.

Nancy Crays
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#15 of 57

     Posted 1/17/06 10:50 AM   
Tom Norris
 
From  Tom Norris  Posts 902  Last 12/20/07
To  NancyC,      [Msg # 20540.15 Message 20540.15 replying to 20540.14 20540.14 ]    

Nancy,

<<I do think it is probably a difficult movie for many American heterosexual males to watch.>>

  For sure.  I consider myself a cool, urbane film-goer, and I found myself squirming at times.  As much an issue here as sex between between men is simply love and affection between men--without sex.   And when you get to the last frame of the film, you realize that's what the film was really about.  That's what makes the film so sad.  Maybe they should have titled the film "Brokeheart Mountain."  Women seem to take all these things in stride far more easily than men.

Tom

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     Posted 1/17/06 10:57 AM   
srfrgrl803
 
From  srfrgrl803  Posts 684  Last Jan-25
To  NancyC,      [Msg # 20540.16 Message 20540.16 replying to 20540.14 20540.14 ]    

Hi Nancy,

I had mentioned over the weekend to my husband that I would like to see this movie sometime.  Surprisingly, he was not opposed, so hopefully I'll get to see it before the Academy Awards.  I'll be interested in his reaction as well.  I wonder what your husband didn't like about the movie.

Maureen

 

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     Posted 1/17/06 1:01 PM   
NancyC,
 
From  NancyC,  Posts 94  Last 4/12/09
To  srfrgrl803      [Msg # 20540.17 Message 20540.17 replying to 20540.16 20540.16 ]    
I wonder what your husband didn't like about the movie.
He didn't really say, but I think it is the explicit scenes between the two males.  I suspect he'd have liked it more if it had been a man and woman.

I don't want to say too much, as you haven't seen it, but what depressed me was all the ruined lives.

Nancy Crays
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#18 of 57

     Posted 1/17/06 1:25 PM   
Richard Bell
 
From  Richard Bell  Posts 496  Last 7/7/09
To  newleveler      [Msg # 20540.18 Message 20540.18 replying to 20540.3 20540.3 ]    (Unread)

<< Acting is a joke profession. Who pays these ppl.?>>

Many actors have a contract that pays them a percentage of a film's box office revenues.

This sick arrangement is obscenely known as a "backend deal".

It's yet another perverted term and practice employed by the Hollyweird sodomites and socialists who are hellbent on flushing America down the toilet .

R.B.
taking the mick ! :^)  ;^)  :^)  ;^)

 

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#19 of 57

     Posted 1/17/06 10:59 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  mems70      [Msg # 20540.19 Message 20540.19 replying to 20540.13 20540.13 ]    
But aside from that, mems, you liked it?
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#20 of 57

     Posted 1/18/06 12:44 AM   
mems70
 
From  mems70  Posts 10  Last 3/7/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 20540.20 Message 20540.20 replying to 20540.19 20540.19 ]    (Unread)

Nope!  And I tell all who I am in contact with during my working hours in sales, and they thank me for the forewarning.  Again, I will limit my money being spent on movies rated "R", as the rating should be "Porno!"  Enough is enough.  Leave a lot of the "porn junk" for the imagination, and that my friend, these days, even the youngest has the imagination of the elders these days, so they don't need to see it on screen.  They already know  how and where they came from!     It would be a pleasure to see real good movies, and I don't think that will ever happen, as stars, actors, actresses don't seem to care either.  They seem to like being fondled, etc.  It is sickening, sorry!   I just saw "Mr. Ringer" for the 5th time, as I have  a movie chat club which introduces movies, talks about them, and those who don't drive, bring them to good movies,  That movie should have gotten big time reviews, but no.........Brokeback Mountain???? Come on.....who wants to see men with men, let alone women with women, let alone all the sex conotation existing these days!  It is getting to the point where, men and women no matter what age, that seems to be the only thing on their minds, tongues, facial gestures, etc. Yep, times a changing.......

Again, leave it for the imagination!

 

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