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Harvey Karten's Reviews

Review: Borat

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     Posted 10/26/06 1:53 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  All      [Msg # 21849.1 ]    

BORAT: CULTURAL LEARNINGS OF AMERICA FOR MAKE
BENEFIT GLORIOUS NATION OF KAZAKHSTAN

Reviewed by Harvey S. Karten
20th Century Fox
Grade: C+
Directed by: Larry Charles
Written By: Sacha Baron Cohen, Anthony Hines, Peter
Baynham, Dan Mazer, story by Cohen, Baynham, Hines, Todd
Phillips
Cast: Sacha Baron Cohen, Ken Davitian, Pamela Anderson,
Pat Haggerty, Alan Keyes
Screened at: AMC Empire, NYC, 10/25/06
Opens: November 3, 2006

If "Borat" has a script known only to the people making the
film–namely Sacha Baron Cohen as the title character and Ken
Davitian as the "producer" of this mockumentary, then Cohen is
a daring fellow. He says much to offend the people with whom
he comes into contact, particularly people who have been for
centuries the butt of cruelty now here, now there, now in this
century, now in that. Specifically, some people in the movie
audience would be offended save for the fact that they know
Cohen is himself anything but homophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-
women's rights and anti-gypsy. Quite the reverse. Like Claude Lanzmann, a serious documentarian who in "Shoah" pretended
to be neutral to bait former Nazis and their sympathizers, Cohen
aims to elicit remarks from people he encounters by pretending
either to be neutral, i.e. out of the loop; or downright racist,
sexist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, and yes, even anti-gypsy.

There is no indication in the press notes to what extent the folks
he chatted with were "in" on the joke, yet this is one of the most
important things to know. For example, remember Alan Funt's
program from way back, "Candid Camera," in which Mr. Funt
used a hidden camera to get unsuspecting people to say or do
silly things? How would you react if you found out that Funt's
subjects were "in" on the whole deal and were play-acting?

Well, then, OK, let's assume that the people Cohen came into
contact with were oblivious, despite the presence of Anthony
Hardwick's and Luke Geissbuhler's lensing. Does Cohen
succeed in showing that cracks in America's reputation for
tolerance and even acceptance of people who are different from
the mainstream? Not necessary since one might argue that
with the amount of footage he took, he could easily have
selected the subjects with the most outrageous comments. Is
Cohen as funny, insanely, outrageously funny as some critics'
journals have said, principally Entertainment Weekly which
called it the funniest movie ever? No. There are laughs all
right, but after a while, despite the brevity of the film (eight-two
minutes), the gags become redundant, and in just one case
involving a mock, nude fight between Borat and Azamat in a
hotel room, the visuals are disgusting–and this comment from a
person who has seen it all.

The film's conceit is that Borat (Sacha Baron Cohen) is being
sent from his village in Kazakhstan (actually a gypsy area in
Romania) to the U.S. to learn about American culture and to see
how the Kazakhs can profit from that knowledge. He takes
leave of his sister with a big kiss, calling her "prostitute number
4 in Kazakhastan (she holds up her trophy) and kisses his
ancient mother, whom he declares is 43. Taking leave of the
"town rapist" he and his producer, Azamat (Ken Davitian) go to
New York but are diverted to California because Borat has fallen
in love with the TV image of Pamela Anderson.

While he is in America–and even before, when he's illustrating
the customs of Kazakhs–he does riffs on anti-Semitism,
homophobia and sexism–all of which he hopes will show his
movie audience the stupidity of people who hold these negative
beliefs. Since Cohen is Jewish, he feels most comfortable with
jokes about anti-Semitism, showing the "running of the Jew" in
his home village (the town Jew wears a big Satan mask while
villagers run from him as though they were all in Pamplona). He
tells the villagers to step on the egg laid by this Satan before it
hatches. He hesitates to board the plane since "the Jews
caused 9/11"; he stays in a bed-and-breakfast place run by an
elderly Jewish couple, which frightens Borat, who declares that
they are out to poison him; he watches roaches sneak under the
door and throws money at them figuring that they are satanic
forms of the owners. Is all this offensive? Not really, not when
you know in advance that it's a riff. Ditto the scene in which he
tells a group of feminists that women have brains the size of
squirrels and that equality with men is the nuttiest thing he's
ever heard.

At a rodeo, he is booed when he sings the national anthem as
though it were written for Kazakhs, calling Kazakhistan the
greatest country of all. When he tells a Texan that
homosexuals are "execute" in my country, the Texan replies,
"We're working on that here."

"Borat" is a series of vignettes, Saturday-Night-Live style, which
is fine, but if Cohen's aim in addition to entertainment is to
outrage people who are offended by his naivete, by his un-PC
beliefs, he seems to have succeeded with almost all who have
been to advance screenings, critics and regular folks alike. No
question: much of what goes on is funny, but side-splitting
funny? Grossly offensive? A comedic masterpiece? Not
particularly. If one thing is offensive, though, it's Variety critic
Leslie Felperin's review which indicates that "the terminally
humorless won't see the funny side." Sorry, Leslie, but people
who do not find "Borat" as hilarious as you simply disagree with
you. They are not "terminally humorless." At least, not
necessarily. "Borat" is neither terminally offensive nor
hilariously funny, nor does it say much about the American
culture.

Rated R. 82 minutes 2006 by Harvey Karten
harveycritic@cs.com Member: NY Film Critics Online


Edited 10/26/06   by  Harveycritic

Edited 10/31/06   by  Don D. (Sysop)
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#2 of 20

     Posted 10/27/06 6:01 AM   
tramporejucket
 
From  tramporejucket  Posts 1  Last 10/27/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 21849.2 Message 21849.2 replying to 21849.1 21849.1 ]    

"Does Cohen succeed in showing that cracks in America's reputation for
tolerance and even acceptance of people who are different from
the mainstream?"

was reading this comment and felt it was odd -

Firstly i dont think America has that reputation AT ALL --- among western nations, i would say that the USA has the reputation for being the least tolerant of 'people who are different from the mainstream'...

Secondly, i dont think this is valid criterion to judge a film by -- you cant claim to be a film critic, and then judge a film on whether or not it violates some of your own patriotic beliefs...

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#3 of 20

     Posted 10/27/06 10:22 AM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  tramporejucket      [Msg # 21849.3 Message 21849.3 replying to 21849.2 21849.2 ]    (Unread)

As for America's being the least tolerant nation, how about
France's refusal to allow women wearing the veil to hold
jobs? And Tony Blair's blasting women who cover their
faces?

As for putting in my own patriotic feeling, the role of the
critic is a flexible one. The writer can travel far and wide
in commenting on a film.

Harvey

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     Posted 10/27/06 1:41 PM   
xinertiacx
 
From  xinertiacx  Posts 1  Last 10/27/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 21849.4 Message 21849.4 replying to 21849.1 21849.1 ]    
i noticed that you found leslie felperin's suggestion in her review of the film that those who found the film unfunny were "terminally humourless" offensive enough to complain in reply:

"Sorry, Leslie, but people who do not find 'Borat' as hilarious as you simply disagree with you. They are not 'terminally humorless.'"

Yet  you were compelled to post in support of ed douglas' review in which he suggested that those who found the film funny must be of  "the lowest common denominator"  and in fact were not brought up properly:

"Anyone with even the slightest amount of proper upbringing won't be tricked into laughing at Borat's low-blow attempts at comedy. As easy as it is to laugh at the people caught in Borat's act, it's sad that anyone can claim brilliance of this unoriginal one-joke character who merely plays up to the lowest common denominator."

why is it so bothersome to you that felperin insults some readers' sense of humour, but commendable (at least tacitly) to you that douglas unsults the readers' upbringing and intelligence??  could it be because douglas agrees with you and gets an automatic pardon consequently??

does the pot ever hesitate to call the kettle black??

Edited 10/27/06   by  xinertiacx
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     Posted 10/27/06 2:30 PM   
BobStone
 
From  BobStone  Posts 1360  Last Jan-31
To  xinertiacx      [Msg # 21849.5 Message 21849.5 replying to 21849.4 21849.4 ]    (Unread)
Mr. Karten has a habit of showing a lack of respect for women, as well as a lack of social skills which moves him to confuse personal attack with entertainment criticism.  That's why I no longer even look at any post generated by his ID.  That's an option open to you as well, under the "Options" menu at the bottom of every post.

-Bob
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     Posted 10/27/06 4:57 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  xinertiacx      [Msg # 21849.6 Message 21849.6 replying to 21849.4 21849.4 ]    (Unread)

I do not agree with Ed Douglas's point that anyone who finds
'Borat' funny represents the lowest common denominator. I
already know of some highly educated people who gave rave
reviews to 'Borat,' including Nick Schager, who is usually
negative but found 'Borat' to be worth 3-1/2 stars out of
four.

Harvey

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#7 of 20

     Posted 10/28/06 2:29 PM   
richeod4
 
From  richeod4  Posts 2  Last 10/28/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 21849.7 Message 21849.7 replying to 21849.6 21849.6 ]    
All I want to know is if this movies is funny or not..I do not care or want to hear of anyones political slant. I do care if I should go spend over 20$ or not. I just want to be entertained and laugh out loud..I know I did not have to read these posts but I did so let it go
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#8 of 20

     Posted 10/28/06 6:57 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  richeod4      [Msg # 21849.8 Message 21849.8 replying to 21849.7 21849.7 ]    
Many people feel the way you do, richeo4. Then again, others do not ;-)
Obviously a professional review must inform readers more than saying
"two thumbs up." As for the second group of readers, they're saying
that if they're going to part with twenty bucks, they want more out of a
movie than whether they'll laugh (or cry, if it's a melodrama). -Harvey
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     Posted 10/29/06 12:22 AM   
brandstel
 
From  brandstel  Posts 1  Last 10/29/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 21849.9 Message 21849.9 replying to 21849.8 21849.8 ]    
I know each and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I find it downright sad how you cannot find it humorous with the way he goes about his business (Sacha Baron Cohen). Yes, their is a group of people (i.e the "Terminally Humorless") and from what I read in your review, you are way to sensitive to certain things. It's a movie for gods sake! Take it as it is, don't try and over-analyze it, as it just makes one look silly. Im sure you have reviewed hundreds, if not thousands of movies and I respect that. But next time, try and have a good time. Oh by the way, Cohen just happens to be jewish.
 
 
-Po Boy
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     Posted 10/29/06 9:01 AM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  brandstel      [Msg # 21849.10 Message 21849.10 replying to 21849.9 21849.9 ]    (Unread)
I'm aware of his Jewish persuasion and mentioned that in my
review. As for "it's only a movie," a critic has to determine
whether any movie works for what it's trying to do. I simply
did not find Cohen's "hilarity" funny. What's more he trashes
his victims--most of whom are nice to him assuming he's making
a regular documentary--thus showing his mean-spiritedness.
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     Posted 11/2/06 1:04 PM   
jmcalister57
 
From  jmcalister57  Posts 1  Last 11/2/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 21849.11 Message 21849.11 replying to 21849.10 21849.10 ]    

I have to assume that any "non-public figure" who appeared in this movie had to sign a release. If they were trashed, it was consensual. That some people took the character seriously, and so allowed him to realistically portray them as bigots or fools, then chose to permit its worldwide viewing, is more an indictment of the "victims" lack of self-awareness than of Cohen's mean-spiritedness.

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     Posted 11/3/06 5:04 AM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  jmcalister57      [Msg # 21849.12 Message 21849.12 replying to 21849.11 21849.11 ]    (Unread)
I didn't realize that Borat's victims signed a release
after seeing how they were trashed.
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     Posted 11/3/06 12:30 PM   
Don D. (Sysop)
 
From  Don D. (Sysop)  Posts 3599  Last 11/26/08
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 21849.13 Message 21849.13 replying to 21849.12 21849.12 ]    

  "I didn't realize that Borat's victims signed a release after seeing how they were trashed."

Hi Harvey, it seems some if not all of them signed before they were trashed. A report on the film in "Entertainment Weekly" addressed the issue in part of a four page article. A fair-use excerpt for critical and research purposes:

"The unwitting suspects... were handed release forms that were, if no technically bogus, at least ambiguous as to the filmmakers' true intent. 'I don't want to get into the whole process,' said [the studio co-chairman], 'but people knew in advance they were being taped, so they signed the appropriate document.' Asked if the release said 'Twentieth Century Fox' on them, he answers 'I don't know.'

Says [director Larry Charles]: 'I'd tell people, 'Right now this movie is only scheduled to be shown in Kazakhstan. I don't know what they're going to do with it. I'm just here to shoot it.' We were like the Merry Pranksters in a way. These people got dosed.'

One unsuspecting target... [said] 'We signed the releases without even reading them,' he admits. 'We have no idea what we signed.' After suffering through a long and excruciatingly awkward [incident]... [the target] says he and his fellow victims felt 'emotionally raped.' To his relief, the scene didn't make the final cut, and he has no intention to sue anyone over the prank: 'Why be made a fool of twice?' he says. Others may feel differently. Fox lawyers are no doubt standing by the phones."

--Don 

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     Posted 11/3/06 6:52 PM   
eviln2k
 
From  eviln2k  Posts 1  Last 11/4/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 21849.14 Message 21849.14 replying to 21849.1 21849.1 ]    

terminally humorless is one way to describe yourself and the 3 other critics who didnt find Borat funny, maybe if you got off your metaphorical high horse, you will discover what a comedy really is......ps...thats Borat

you`ve just lost all merit as a critic........to each his own is the old saying for expressing ones opinions, however, you should be stripped of that privilege if your opinion has no value.

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     Posted 11/3/06 11:59 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  Don D. (Sysop)      [Msg # 21849.15 Message 21849.15 replying to 21849.13 21849.13 ]    

Don, I have no doubt that a major studio will do what it
has to do to release a major movie that would guarantee
big box office. Even if everyone signed a release, that
release would state, I believe, that a film company is
making a doc about the efforts of a Kazakh representative
to learn about American culture. The people who signed
the release but were clueless about what was about to happen
to them have been taken advantage of: humiliated despite, in
fact because of, their vulnerability and polite attitude.
Only a sadistic audience would find this humiliation riotous,
even funny, and my oh my, we do have a lot of people with
repressed anger in our society, eager to let it all out on
vulgar satire.

My principal criticism is that the movie is funny only in parts.
The reason it's not funny, however, brings in the arguments
above. Then again, I gave it a C+, not a D or an F, but that
moderate grade brought down a host of insults from people who
insist that I'm humorless. I wonder if those folks would
catch any humor in Oscar Wilde's The Importance of Being Earnest or Aristophanes' Lysistrata. True, people are being laughed at, but in the case of the Greek comic writer, those
are people in power. In the case of the persecuted Wilde,
they would likewise people those who are members of society.

Harvey

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     Posted 11/4/06 12:05 AM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  eviln2k      [Msg # 21849.16 Message 21849.16 replying to 21849.14 21849.14 ]    

Eviln2k

Do you find Woody Allen funny? I've heard that 90% of
Americans do not; that Woody has a relatively small,
mostly urban audience. Yet years ago I--who believed
that everyone must be sharing my opinion--said, "Only
the terminally humorous would not find Woody Allen funny."

First you say in your comment, in effect, to each his own.
Then you say that I, by being in a small minority, have
lost merit as a critic. Hey, if I were terminally humorous,
would I not have given the pic a D or an F, and not a C+?

Any critic who follows the bandwagon for fear of being
baited by readers who do not really believe in freedom
of speech has lost his merit as a critic. Did you know
that one guy, Paul Arendt who writes for the BBC and has
a quote, "Reviewer is disapointed," today changed his 4-day
vote on Rotten Tomtoes from "rotten" to "fresh?" Hmmmm...

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     Posted 11/5/06 10:07 AM   
jungleroomx
 
From  jungleroomx  Posts 1  Last 11/5/06
To  Harveycritic      [Msg # 21849.17 Message 21849.17 replying to 21849.16 21849.16 ]    
Apparently the good reviewer has skipped over Swiftian satire and humor.

Let me explain:

While other countries seem to proudly and defiantly wear their bias, prejudice, and bigotry on their sleeves (As Cohen shows with Borat), Americas bigotry is more like a velvet-covered sledgehammer.  It also shows our willingness not only to not speak out to others about their bigotry as to not be seen as an ass, but the scene in the gun shop shows that we will willingly reinforce others beliefs readily and pander to others not familiar with our culture (or lack thereof).  The point of Borat is not to embarass the people on film, but to embarass the audience.

It's some of the most biting satire I have ever seen, and it hit home in quite a few points personally.  I don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy for those who were duped by Cohen, because the entire movie exposes one of the biggest white elephants we have in our...erm.... national living room?  Sorry, couldn't really figure out a better metaphor for it.  It's meant to make you uncomfortable, and it does a DAMN fine job of it.  Not only does it expose this entire nations soft underbelly of bigotry and homophobia, it twists it around and makes us laugh at ourselves.  I dare you to name a more effective way of saying to this nation that we're all bigots underneath our pillow talk and smiley glandhand moments, and I also dare you to say that we didn't need something like this.  Laughter is the best medicine, and in this case we need to see how we act to people from outside our country.  We're accommodating to the point of condescention, like giving a 5 year old a lollipop, and I applaud Sacha for being extraordinarily brave in doing it.

The people in the movie who got duped are not victims.  To call it victimization in order to squeak out laughs and make money is plain ignorance, and I'm appalled you threw in your flag-waving nationalism in this review.  I'm guessing one too many bits hit a little close to home, eh?
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     Posted 11/6/06 12:18 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  jungleroomx      [Msg # 21849.18 Message 21849.18 replying to 21849.17 21849.17 ]    (Unread)

Jungleroomx,

Nicely written (he says condescendingly). My principal objection
is that "Borat" succeeds in being funny only in spots. Its intentions
are good, as you say--to make the audience feel uncomfortable in
its own bigotry. However if satire is to work, it was be amusing,
as was Swift's "A Modest Proposal" and Aristophanes's "Lysistrata,"
and what's more it's more effective if it's free of roaring
vulgarity (which "Borat" is not).

As for the victimization of the subjects, most of them did not express
bigotry, racism and homophobia. The elderly couple with the Bed
and Breakfast. The feminists. The antique dealer. I do,
however, go along with you that some of the victims deserve their
punishment, just as the Nazis that Fred Wiseman interviewed
in "Shoah," eliciting fascist thoughts while pretending to be
neutral.

Nor do I think much of the audience that attended "Borat" felt
any more uncomfortable than they would at a screening of the
far, far, funnier "South Park."

Harvey

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     Posted 11/6/06 4:33 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  jungleroomx      [Msg # 21849.19 Message 21849.19 replying to 21849.17 21849.17 ]    (Unread)

THE REAL PURPOSE OF “BORAT”

Some of you guys are young. You haven’t developed a healthy case of cynicism yet. This is why some of you are siding with the movie’s “good intentions.”

The purpose of “Borat” is not to make homophobes, anti-Semites and racists in the audience feel uncomfortable with their own depravity.

Nor is the purpose of “Borat” the reverse: to incite racism, homophobia and anti-Semitism among audience members who take the title character literally rather than as a target for audience ridicule.

“Borat” is released by a major commercial studio. The purpose of the movie is to make money for the studio and for the principal character, who will laugh his way to the bank even more than much the audience. The movie will make good money because a large segment of the audience will laugh–mostly WITH Borat rather than AT him, methinks, because he has the cojones, for example, to walk naked into a hotel lobby where conventioners are meeting. This was never done before in a regular, commercial movie. It’s original, but so what?

“Borat” is not a good satire. “Thank You for Smoking Is.” Why? Because “Thank You for Smoking” does not indulge in low, broad, vulgar, physical comedy. The dialogue is witty, the language cutting, the acting brilliant.

What’s more, the target of that film is not vulnerable people tricked into signing releases that they scarcely knew what they were agreeing to. “Borat” ridicules ordinary people: the elderly, kind owners of a Bed and Breakfast hotel; a teacher of table manners and a small group of diners, the wife of one made the object of a contemptuous statement (on her lack of sexiness); an antiques dealer; even an entire country of 15 million people which is hardly one of the Big Five powers in the world today, nor is it a member of the Axis of Evil. “Thank You for Smoking,” by contrast, takes on the powerful lobbies, the demons of corporate spin culture that influence our representatives so strongly. Going further, Aristophanes’s “Lysistrata” targets Greece’s macho men who lead the city-states into war. Jonathan Swift’s “A Tale of the Tub” hones in on religious extremism; his “A Modest Proposal” ridicules those who have contempt for the poor. These satirists all target the powerful. “Borat” targets a poor nation, and a bevy of people who are kind to him and did not suspect that they were to be the objects of ridicule. At no time, though, is Borat’s satiric knife sharpened by genuine wit. It is dulled by gross, inexcusable, and mostly unfunny slapstick, so broad that most of the audience will ignore the real targets of satire and have contempt for Borat’s


Edited 11/6/06   by  Harveycritic
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     Posted 11/10/06 3:04 PM   
Harveycritic
 
From  Harveycritic  Posts 1637  Last Jan-30
To  jmcalister57      [Msg # 21849.20 Message 21849.20 replying to 21849.11 21849.11 ]    (Unread)

http://www.etonline.com/movies/news/37724/

Frat boys sue Borat. Above link reports that two collegians
were advised to continue drinking after they were drunk, that
they signed a release in their drunken state, and were told
that the pic would not be shown in the U.S. Granted: anyone
who signs any legal paper when drunk is stupid. Yet the film
company is out of line in urging the guys to go along with
their own victimization. At least this proves that the
movie was not staged, i.e. unless the lawsuit is part of
the film company's strategy to prove that it was not staged
when in fact the boys knew everything.

Yet another clipping trashes the film for appealing to the
lowest common denominator in the audience, and also for
attacking the vulnerable and weak (like the above college
kids) rather than Bush (as Stephen Colbert, Bill Maher,
Jon Stewart, and others do). I had cited in my own review
that satirists like Jonathan Swift and Oscar Wilde went
after the Establishment, not the least protected members
of society.

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