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Have you bought a terabyte drive?

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by :   Marte Brengle
Oct-24

votes :   20
Latest :   Nov-20

Q: Have you bought a terabyte drive?

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#2 of 64 Posted Oct-24 2:33 PM

From Marte Brengle Posts 129 Last Nov-21
To All [Msg # 164706.2 164706.1 ]

I have been seriously tempted by the newly-less-expensive terabyte external drives, I must say. I'd never have to worry about running out of backup space again. My main concern is that my 6-year-old computer isn't likely to support a drive that large even with a BIOS flash.

Of course, I have been talking about building a new computer for quite some time now. :)

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#3 of 64 Posted Oct-24 3:05 PM

From D.F. Yriart Posts 94 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.3 164706.2 ]

Marte,

>> I must say. I'd never have to worry about running out of backup space again. <<

Hah! That's what I thought. You have to craft your backup strategy carefully or you'll fill the drive in a matter of months.

Doug Yriart
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#4 of 64 Posted Oct-24 3:17 PM

From Marte Brengle Posts 129 Last Nov-21
To D.F. Yriart [Msg # 164706.4 164706.3 ]

Really? Are you doing full, uncompressed backups every day, or what? I haven't filled up my 160gig external drive with backups yet and I've had it for close to two years.

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#5 of 64 Posted Oct-24 3:37 PM

From D.F. Yriart Posts 94 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.5 164706.4 ]

Marte,

>> Are you doing full, uncompressed backups every day, or what? I haven't filled up my 160gig external drive with backups yet and I've had it for close to two years. <<

Good question. Acronis True Image documentation is not very clear. I thought I was doing an incremental backup of data every week, and a single image backup of the whole system once a month to replace the previous image... that's not apparently what I'm getting.

If I have the time and energy this weekend I'm going to try to understand it... after I recover from a production problem at work for which the data center production control team woke me up at 3:00 a.m. and which we finally put to bed about an hour ago.

Doug Yriart
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#6 of 64 Posted Oct-24 4:08 PM

From Marte Brengle Posts 129 Last Nov-21
To D.F. Yriart [Msg # 164706.6 164706.5 ]

After I changed to XP, the backup software that came with my Maxtor drive never worked properly again, so I got the open-source Cobian Backup. It will compress the backup files automatically if you want it to. The first time I used it to do a full backup I didn't have everything properly set, so the backup wasn't compressed. Now THAT will use up space in a hurry.

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#7 of 64 Posted Oct-24 5:09 PM

From John Barreiro Posts 197 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.7 164706.1 ]

In my case the answer(s) are Yes and removable.

I added a second drive to the Vista machine that is used as a DVR. The original is only 450 Gb and allowed for about 40 hrs or so of HD TV storage. I installed a removable tray in the spare 5-1/4 slot and added a 1 TB drive dedicated only to video storage. Now I have about 120 plus hours of HD TV storage. The primary drive is just for the OS and some small stuff.

I paid $89 for this 1 TB drive and it does what's supposed to do just fine.

I also picked up a 500 GB drive for $49 and put it into a ThermalTake external enclosure to use as back up to the back up.

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#8 of 64 Posted Oct-24 7:26 PM

From Marte Brengle Posts 129 Last Nov-21
To John Barreiro [Msg # 164706.8 164706.7 ]

I have an external PATA enclosure that's not being used because the drive inside it bit the dust. I dunno if any of the terabyte drives come in that form factor, though. Yeah, my computer's old.

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#9 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:16 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1973 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.9 164706.1 ]

I have used a 1T drive on my testbed for some time. Currently habe three:

WD "Green"
Maxtor
Hitachi

all work well...

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#10 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:17 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1973 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.10 164706.2 ]

>>I'd never have to worry about running out of backup space again.

NEVER say "never"... ;-)

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#11 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:19 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1973 Last Nov-21
To D.F. Yriart [Msg # 164706.11 164706.5 ]

PMJI:

I recommend Differential, not Incremental. Restoration then only involves TWO files - the "base" and the latest Differential. Incremental can involve up to 30 files, in the proper sequence...

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#12 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:20 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1973 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.12 164706.8 ]

Correct. PATA maxes out at 500G...

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#13 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:28 PM

From Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET Posts 547 Last Nov-21
To Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) [Msg # 164706.13 164706.11 ]

I'd be interested to know how both differential and incremental deal with a situation where, say, you start with the OS and 5 applications installed along with associated file, make a full backup, remove one application and make an additional back up, not full but of those two kinds.

Does the resultant restore show no trace of the application that was removed (including registry entries for example) or ..... ?

Hugh

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#14 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:33 PM

From Judy M. Posts 1346 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.14 164706.2 ]

I replaced a 100 gig SATA internal drive with a 1 terabyte drive a month ago. I replaced the old drive because I needed more room for Windows 7, which I'll be installing in a dual boot with Win XP. I also have a 500 gig PATA in that computer, which I use primarily for Linux and for backups of the SATA drive.

I have five external hard drives: three are 200 gigs each, one is 500 gigs, one is 160 gigs. They are pretty full of backups (for three computers). I have to delete old backups when I'm making a new one.

Your computer BIOS does not limit the size of an external drive. What might limit it is the external case itself, which has some sort of BIOS of its own, though I'm not sure that's the right term. You'd have to be sure that the external case would support a terabyte drive.

One of my computers does not support 48-bit LBA for sure, but it has no problem with the 200-gig external USB drive when I attach it. I'm sure my old laptop doesn't have 48-bit LBA (it's six years old and has a 40-gig drive in it), but it likes the 160-gig Firewire external I use with it.
--Judy M.

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Registered Linux User #397786
Being productive with VectorLinux 6.0 Standard version, Deluxe Edition

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#15 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:48 PM

From John Barreiro Posts 197 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.15 164706.8 ]

No. Just about all the drives you find today at places like FRY's are SATA.

You might want to try these folks for PATA drives. .... HERE

Edited Oct-24 by John Barreiro

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#16 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:50 PM

From John Barreiro Posts 197 Last Nov-21
To Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) [Msg # 164706.16 164706.12 ]

Really?

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#17 of 64 Posted Oct-24 9:55 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1973 Last Nov-21
To Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET [Msg # 164706.17 164706.13 ]

Sorry, no idea what the result looks like as I have never need to restore from a differential...

I would imagine that any Registry entries that do not exist at the time the Differential is taken mo longer exist after the Restore...

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#18 of 64 Posted Oct-24 10:10 PM

From Marte Brengle Posts 129 Last Nov-21
To Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) [Msg # 164706.18 164706.10 ]

Yeah, didn't the bigwigs at Apple and MicroSquish say something about memory and "never" ? :)

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#19 of 64 Posted Oct-24 10:11 PM

From Marte Brengle Posts 129 Last Nov-21
To Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) [Msg # 164706.19 164706.11 ]

Hmm. I've been doing incrementals. But now that you put it that way, differential does look like a better way to go.

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#20 of 64 Posted Oct-24 10:13 PM

From Dale G. Shields (WUGNET) Posts 1973 Last Nov-21
To Marte Brengle [Msg # 164706.20 164706.18 ]

My Sister had a PS/2 in her husband's Dental office. 20 Meg HD. Was told it had "all the space she would eber need". Bought a Dental program whose DB was 59 Meg. Bought a new system for less than a PS/2 upgrade HD...

Those were the days! <wry grin>