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Are You Planting Flower Bulbs This Year?

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Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
by :   Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
Nov-1

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Q: Are You Planting Flower Bulbs This Year?


#2 of 36

     Posted Nov-1 12:14 PM   
mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6
 
From  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6  Posts 1839  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.2 Message 197543.2 replying to 197543.1 197543.1 ]    
The only bulbs that I planted this fall were the saffron crocus.  The rest I have to get in the ground this spring (glads).   Last year I planted quite a few tulips, so no more for me this year - where else would I put them?  I'm all filled up!

Molly

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     Posted Nov-1 1:49 PM   
Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
 
From  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a  Posts 13552  Last Nov-21
To  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6      [Msg # 197543.3 Message 197543.3 replying to 197543.2 197543.2 ]    

Saffron crocus were fun, but they didn't last for me very well. It was probably the chickens, or the drought, or maybe the deluge 5 years ago. Ah, well, I gave some very lush Christmas presents (saffron threads) for a few years.

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     Posted Nov-1 2:21 PM   
mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6
 
From  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6  Posts 1839  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.4 Message 197543.4 replying to 197543.3 197543.3 ]    

Mine are coming up slowly.  But they are still coming up.  We've had some really weird weather this year so I'm surprised that they are even breaking thru. 

I noticed that some of my tulip bulbs rotted this year.  That doesn't happen very often.  I'm blaming it on the weather too.

Molly

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     Posted Nov-1 2:41 PM   
Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
 
From  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a  Posts 13552  Last Nov-21
To  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6      [Msg # 197543.5 Message 197543.5 replying to 197543.4 197543.4 ]    

Are all of the rotten bulbs in the same bed, or are they in different places? Maybe we can sleuth out the problem. It may be the weather, but I've had some that survived 65" of rain in one year, in clay soil, and survived. They also survived through years when the ground was so dry it had cracks from April to October, except when the dust filled in the cracks.

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     Posted Nov-1 9:52 PM   
MollyM CA
 
From  MollyM CA  Posts 265  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.6 Message 197543.6 replying to 197543.1 197543.1 ]    
What does (1) have to do with (3)???? Yes to both!

It's true that even now I hardly dare take a step for the narcissus leaves (so far, all Chinese Sacred Lily, and a great many coming up in places where I have no memory of ever planting them or even dropping some...

but that isn't going to stop me. Costco always has some nice mixes, pretty good bulbs too.

I'm going to have to make do with what's left as I didn't get around to ordering what with the new place and all, and Scheepers' is sold out of practically everything I want. Van Engelen (same bulbs only by hundreds) has some of the mixes but not sure I can face even 50, supposing I take half up to the new place to pretty up the entrance where the hypothetical farm stand would be.

Everyone must be staying home and planting bulbs -- last year I ordered later than this, and then was offered wonderful bargains in maybe December or even January.

m
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     Posted Nov-2 12:21 AM   
mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6
 
From  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6  Posts 1839  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.7 Message 197543.7 replying to 197543.5 197543.5 ]    
They are all in 1 bed that slopes toward the driveway.  I'm thinking that since we don't bury things too deep that maybe some of the hard frost and rain heaved them up to the surface to freeze, then thaw, then freeze, then thaw etc.  I also noticed that it was the daughter bulbs that mushed.   

Molly

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     Posted Nov-2 6:41 AM   
Len Goran
 
From  Len Goran  Posts 955  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.8 Message 197543.8 replying to 197543.1 197543.1 ]    
>Are You Planting Flower Bulbs This Year?<

Daryl, the 450 we got from ColorBlends are in the ground--can't wait to see how the project turns out!  Regards, Len
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#9 of 36

     Posted Nov-2 7:51 AM   
Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
 
From  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a  Posts 13552  Last Nov-21
To  MollyM CA      [Msg # 197543.9 Message 197543.9 replying to 197543.6 197543.6 ]    

I was told that a lot of bulb houses didn't order in the quantities that they have in the past because they had so many left overs last year. That's probably why you're not seeing such good deals. Some places had really steep discounts (more than usual) for pre-orders before July 1.

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     Posted Nov-2 7:55 AM   
Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
 
From  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a  Posts 13552  Last Nov-21
To  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6      [Msg # 197543.10 Message 197543.10 replying to 197543.7 197543.7 ]    

Were they double bulbs when you planted them last fall? If not, then the daughter bulbs were probably formed this year, after bloom, so wouldn't likely have been lost to frost heave. OTOH, if they were doubles last year, since daughters are often higher up on the bulb, that's quite likely. Daughter bulbs are especially likely to be higher up on hard pan.

Most spring-flowering bulbs really need to be planted as directed, usually 3x the depth of the diameter of the bulb, even if that means excavating and building the soil before planting. Some bulbs have contractile roots and will "plant" themselves where soil conditions are good for them.

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     Posted Nov-2 7:57 AM   
Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
 
From  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a  Posts 13552  Last Nov-21
To  Len Goran      [Msg # 197543.11 Message 197543.11 replying to 197543.8 197543.8 ]    

450? Oh, my achin' back! I've done a few hundred at a time and I still wince when I think about it. It was worth it, though. It's been about 20 years since we planted them, and they still bloom every year, though in recent years, the trees have covered quite a few of them so that they don't bloom as well.

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     Posted Nov-2 8:01 AM   
Len Goran
 
From  Len Goran  Posts 955  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.12 Message 197543.12 replying to 197543.11 197543.11 ]    
>450? Oh, my achin' back!<

Daryl, most went into that are where the treeman tilled the soil--they were relatively easy to plant!  Regards, Len
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     Posted Nov-2 8:31 AM   
Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
 
From  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a  Posts 13552  Last Nov-21
To  Len Goran      [Msg # 197543.13 Message 197543.13 replying to 197543.12 197543.12 ]    

That's good. Mine mostly went into either beds that I hand dug myself, or between trees where the tiller would have damaged the roots. For those, we used an auger that attached to a reversible electric drill. That drill could still hit a rock and kick hard, though.

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     Posted Nov-2 9:10 AM   
LindaHD
 
From  LindaHD  Posts 602  Last Nov-21
To  Len Goran      [Msg # 197543.14 Message 197543.14 replying to 197543.8 197543.8 ]    
Len:  Six years ago I planted over 450 bulbs of various daffodils along our meadow plantings.  It took several days.  Of course, I dug up all those bulbs from plantings around our house earlier in the year.  I need to thin those plantings again this spring so I'll probably have a similar amount to dig.  I dug another group several years ago and planted them all around the woodlands we have.  I can put many more in there this next year.  BTW, if your bulbs multiply like mine, you will have many to move to other areas of the property -- be prepared.  I started with about 3 or 4 dozen that I dug up from our previous house. 

Linda
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     Posted Nov-2 11:34 AM   
mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6
 
From  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6  Posts 1839  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.15 Message 197543.15 replying to 197543.10 197543.10 ]    

Daryl, to tell you the truth, I don't remember if they were doubles or not when I planted them.  I do remember that the bulbs were very large for tulips, but thats about it.

We don't plant them deep here because if we did, they don't come up.  My MIL told me not to plant them deep, but I thought she was full of it, so the first ones (years ago) I planted at the recommended depth.  They never came up and just sat there.  This was in a bulb garden that I had.  I have never figured out why this is the way it is, maybe you know - it doesn't make sense to me.  Maybe they don't get enough consistent water? 

Iris are the same way.  We don't cover them at all, not even lightly.  Just lay them out where you want them and water. 

I'll go out later today or tomorrow and snap a pic of the area where they are planted.  Maybe you can tell me just from the area what might be causing it.

Molly

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     Posted Nov-2 11:57 AM   
Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
 
From  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a  Posts 13552  Last Nov-21
To  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6      [Msg # 197543.16 Message 197543.16 replying to 197543.15 197543.15 ]    

Deep planting is only possible if you do your soil amendment. Any water standing at the root zone will kill them. In our area, some people use french drains to overcome the problem. I prefer raised beds for Tulips. That way they can go close to ground level so that they can drain, but have sufficient soil over the top of them to keep them happy.

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     Posted Nov-2 12:01 PM   
mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6
 
From  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6  Posts 1839  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.17 Message 197543.17 replying to 197543.16 197543.16 ]    

French drains are illegal here.  Although there are several places that still have them. 

A raised bed is a good idea.  Maybe when I can get Joe motivated with the backhoe he will build my raised bed around the corner of the driveway and lift that corner where the tulips are.

Molly

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     Posted Nov-2 12:03 PM   
Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a
 
From  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a  Posts 13552  Last Nov-21
To  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6      [Msg # 197543.18 Message 197543.18 replying to 197543.17 197543.17 ]    

Why are French Drains illegal?

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     Posted Nov-2 12:08 PM   
mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6
 
From  mjgallaway/WA St/Zone 6  Posts 1839  Last Nov-21
To  Daryl/Ga/Zone 7a      [Msg # 197543.19 Message 197543.19 replying to 197543.18 197543.18 ]    
You got me.  Its something to do with the county.  I think they want the money from the permits.  But who knows.  All I know is if you put one in, and its reported, they hand out huge fines.  Something about ground water quality etc.

Molly

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     Posted Nov-2 12:30 PM   
Len Goran
 
From  Len Goran  Posts 955  Last Nov-21
To  LindaHD      [Msg # 197543.20 Message 197543.20 replying to 197543.14 197543.14 ]    
>Six years ago I planted over 450 bulbs of various daffodils along our meadow plantings.<

Linda, it must be beautiful!  Regards, Len
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