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DOS

Can't boot

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#1 of 18

     Posted Oct-7 10:24 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 32  Last Oct-11
To  All      [Msg # 136747.1 ]    
Hi,

I took a 4 GB HDD divided into two 2 GB partitions, formatted in FAT.  I installed the drive as CS onto my main Windows XP PC in order to format it and to restore a Ghost image onto the first partition (set as active).   When I bring the drive (with jumper set as master) into an old IBM Pentium II PC, the drive refuse to boot via the MS-DOS 6.2 O.S.. 

I did the same process with another similar drive and it worked fine.  I even tried to re-install DOS (same version) onto the buggy drive, but no luck.  Finally, I used FDISK to removed the second partition (configured as primary).  Even if only partition is present and it is set as active and primary, DOS onto it refuses to boot, leaving a totally blank screen past the IBM logo from the BIOS progress.

Regards,

Ronald


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     Posted Oct-7 10:49 PM   
John Barreiro
 
From  John Barreiro  Posts 45  Last Nov-10
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 136747.2 Message 136747.2 replying to 136747.1 136747.1 ]    
First, any particular reason you formatted as FAT instead of NTFS if you're using WinXP?

Check this resource for XP formatting procedures:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313348
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#3 of 18

     Posted Oct-7 10:56 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 32  Last Oct-11
To  John Barreiro      [Msg # 136747.3 Message 136747.3 replying to 136747.2 136747.2 ]    
Hmmm, I'm not using Win XP, I'm using MS-DOS 6.2.

Ron
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#4 of 18

     Posted Oct-7 11:04 PM   
John Barreiro
 
From  John Barreiro  Posts 45  Last Nov-10
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 136747.4 Message 136747.4 replying to 136747.3 136747.3 ]    
Oh, in that case, did you make the partition "active"? (or bootable?)

Edited Oct-7   by  John Barreiro
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#5 of 18

     Posted Oct-7 11:25 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 32  Last Oct-11
To  John Barreiro      [Msg # 136747.5 Message 136747.5 replying to 136747.4 136747.4 ]    
yes
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#6 of 18

     Posted Oct-8 1:37 AM   
John Barreiro
 
From  John Barreiro  Posts 45  Last Nov-10
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 136747.6 Message 136747.6 replying to 136747.5 136747.5 ]    
Ok... out of ideas.
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#7 of 18

     Posted Oct-8 2:04 AM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 32  Last Oct-11
To  John Barreiro      [Msg # 136747.7 Message 136747.7 replying to 136747.6 136747.6 ]    
Can the activation of the primary partition corrupt?  Perhaps a low level format?

Ron
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     Posted Oct-8 9:50 AM   
John in Detroit
 
From  John in Detroit  Posts 508  Last Nov-21
To  John Barreiro      [Msg # 136747.8 Message 136747.8 replying to 136747.2 136747.2 ]    
Why FAT instead of NTFS

Why Vintage instead of Windows support?

He was trying to boot into DOS

DOS don't do NTFS  (Though the dos emulator in NT will, but that is only because it's a program running under NT) got to have NT to use NTFS

Windows XP is, of course NT Version #.##  (I forget the version number)
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#9 of 18

     Posted Oct-8 9:56 AM   
Timothy J. McGowan
 
From  Timothy J. McGowan  Posts 319  Last Nov-10
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 136747.9 Message 136747.9 replying to 136747.1 136747.1 ]    
Ronald:

Is your drive properly recognized in the Pentium II's BIOS?

-- Tim
dark-green McGowanReporting.com clover logo McGowanReporting.com
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#10 of 18

     Posted Oct-8 10:10 AM   
John Barreiro
 
From  John Barreiro  Posts 45  Last Nov-10
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 136747.10 Message 136747.10 replying to 136747.7 136747.7 ]    
it's possible. Try FDISK to wipe all partitions and start again from scratch

Another possibility, what's the BIOS's HDD size limit?
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#11 of 18

     Posted Oct-8 10:11 AM   
John Barreiro
 
From  John Barreiro  Posts 45  Last Nov-10
To  John in Detroit      [Msg # 136747.11 Message 136747.11 replying to 136747.8 136747.8 ]    
Thank you echo....
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#12 of 18

     Posted Oct-8 10:17 AM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 32  Last Oct-11
To  Timothy J. McGowan      [Msg # 136747.12 Message 136747.12 replying to 136747.9 136747.9 ]    
Yes
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#13 of 18

     Posted Oct-8 3:48 PM   
Charles C
 
From  Charles C  Posts 62  Last Nov-10
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 136747.13 Message 136747.13 replying to 136747.3 136747.3 ]    

I wish I could help, Ron, but all I can do is commiserate.  

I was successful in partitioning the drive (9.1 GB) on my old  Dell 400 MHz Pentium II into two partitions and installing DOS 6.2 on one partition and Red Hat Linux on the second partition.  Did you, by any chance make the first partition too big?  I remember that as a wrinkle at the time I did it.  I used Partition Magic at the time which would have been about 5 or 6 years ago.

...Charles

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#14 of 18

     Posted Oct-8 4:24 PM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 32  Last Oct-11
To  Charles C      [Msg # 136747.14 Message 136747.14 replying to 136747.13 136747.13 ]    
Hello Charles,

Both partitions are 2011 MB in size.  That drive used to boot.  It's not a new drive nor new stuff on it.

Regards,

Ronald


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#15 of 18

     Posted Oct-10 8:54 AM   
cupxwb
 
From  cupxwb  Posts 21  Last Oct-10
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 136747.15 Message 136747.15 replying to 136747.14 136747.14 ]    

How have you formatted the disk?  Is it FAT16 or FAT32?  DOS6.22 and DOS7/Win95 only recognize FAT16.  Once you've reformatted, do a sys C: from the floppy - that puts on the bootable stuff.  The rest of the installation is just a copy and expand operation.

If you want to use FAT32, you'll need DOS 8/Win 98.

To do that, do a normal Win98 install, then

attrib -sh msdos.sys
edit msdos.sys

Change BootGUI=1 to BootGUI=0

Save the file

attrib +s +h msdos.sys

Reboot and you've got DOS8.

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     Posted Oct-11 8:20 AM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 32  Last Oct-11
To  John Barreiro      [Msg # 136747.16 Message 136747.16 replying to 136747.10 136747.10 ]    
Ok John,

I did just that, wipe out all partitions and start over, FDISK, FORMAT C: /S.  No luck!  This drive is going into the trash can. 

Both partitions are 2 GB in size.  As I said earlier, it a drive that used to work for the same application.

Anyhow, thank you all for your concern ...  Until next time!

Regards,

Ronald
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#17 of 18

     Posted Oct-11 8:22 AM   
Ronald McDonald
 
From  Ronald McDonald  Posts 32  Last Oct-11
To  cupxwb      [Msg # 136747.17 Message 136747.17 replying to 136747.15 136747.15 ]    (Unread)
Thanks Cupxwb, that's good to know!
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#18 of 18

     Posted Oct-11 11:14 AM   
John Barreiro
 
From  John Barreiro  Posts 45  Last Nov-10
To  Ronald McDonald      [Msg # 136747.18 Message 136747.18 replying to 136747.16 136747.16 ]    
Oh well....  

HDDs can fail, HDDs WILL fail
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