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#1 of 19

     Posted Nov-3 12:06 PM   
Christine
 
From  Christine  Posts 287  Last 3:16 AM
To  Karen Henry      [Msg # 65704.1 ]    

Karen!

Friends are preparing for a trip to Ireland.  They would like to know if there are any tours to seek out, or other advice from people who have been there. Can I post a request for thoughts, advice? 

Thanks, Christine

PS I tried to PM this to you, but the message window would not send. 

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS, IT'S ABOUT LEARNING TO DANCE IN THE RAIN -

CHRISTINE

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     Posted Nov-3 12:44 PM   
Karen Henry
 
From  Karen Henry  Posts 4684  Last 6:18 AM
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.2 Message 65704.2 replying to 65704.1 65704.1 ]    
Christine:

I really did think you said Scotland, when I first read your post.  But since you're talking about Ireland (a place I know nothing about, btw), I moved this into the Gonk.  It really doesn't have anything to do with Diana's books. <g>

Karen


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     Posted Nov-3 12:51 PM   
jo bourne
 
From  jo bourne  Posts 1979  Last 12:05 AM
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.3 Message 65704.3 replying to 65704.1 65704.1 ]    

Hi Christine --

The first thing I bought, the first time I went to Ireland, was a sweater.

I got onto the plane at Friendship Airport -- 94 degees, glaring sunlight, 90% humidity.

I got out at Shannon.  54 degees and drizzling.

 

JoB

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     Posted Nov-3 8:05 PM   
Christine
 
From  Christine  Posts 287  Last 3:16 AM
To  jo bourne      [Msg # 65704.4 Message 65704.4 replying to 65704.3 65704.3 ]    

Jo!

Thanks. This visual was a giggle for me. That is a great description of my own luck! I went to Anchorage to help with a new baby, with warning that I should take all my warmest clothing. Boarded in Denver in ice and snow, deplaned in Anchorage in 50+ degrees and sunny days. Had to buy cooler clothes before going home. Sigh.

Thanks again!

Christine

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS, IT'S ABOUT LEARNING TO DANCE IN THE RAIN -

CHRISTINE

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     Posted Nov-4 9:09 AM   
jo bourne
 
From  jo bourne  Posts 1979  Last 12:05 AM
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.5 Message 65704.5 replying to 65704.4 65704.4 ]    

Hi Christine --

For me, Ireland was about prehistoric and early sites.  Much tromping over field with one of those survey maps in hand, attracting the attention of cows. 

Gardens -- they have some great old gardens.  You find a book that tells you where they are and when they're open. 

B&Bs in the countryside -- we didn't go into the cities much, though I think there's one of the world's great museums in Dublin. 

We went by bike and train.  The coast is lovely.

JoB

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     Posted Nov-4 11:02 AM   
Kevin Fulton
 
From  Kevin Fulton  Posts 942  Last Nov-16
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.6 Message 65704.6 replying to 65704.1 65704.1 ]    
I've been to Ireland on numerous occasions.
Like Switzerland, almost everywhere looks like a post card.
If your friends aren't planning to rent a car, there are numerous daytrips that can be picked up at the tourist office. I took only one: there was a small tour company owned by 2 sisters who were into archeology. We went to the Hill of Tara, Newgrange and a few other places north of Dublin.

To be honest, apart from a few museums, I found Dublin to be a bore.

The gardens at Powercourt (just south of Dublin) are quite impressive. I liked Glendalough, a little further south -- it has all the things Ireland is known for -- round tower, sheep, heather on the hillsides.

In the West, they'll have to choose between the Ring of Kerry and the Dingle peninsula (hard to do both on the same trip). Kerry is more dramatic, but Dingle has a distinct charm. Further north in County Clare is the Burren, a desolate landscape with unusual foliage (arctic flowers, for example).

Kylemore Abbey, near Clifden in County Galway is in a very romantic location. It houses a girls' school. I tried unsuccessfully to get my daughter to attend.

If they go to the far north in Ulster, there's the Giants' Causeway, an incredible natural formation of basalt pilings.

I've rarely had a bad meal outside of Dublin. The Irish do much more with their food than the Scots (apart from pub grub).

However, the Irish aren't above scamming. There's the forebears' gravestone scam that a lot of Americans apparently fall victim to when they visit their relatives in Ireland. Virtually everyone in my family has fallen for it at one time or another.

A number of years ago when I was at Euston station to take a train to Galway to meet up with my mother and brother, I encountered a man selling the what he claimed to be the skull of Brian Boru, the legendary Irish hero. For 5 punt it was an unusual souvenir, whatever its provenance. 2 weeks later the same man was outside the station selling another skull. I asked him about it.
"I thought I bought the skull of Brian Boru last week. Besides, this one is much smaller."
Without as much as a blink of the eye, the man replied, "Ah, but this is the skull of Brian Boru as a young boy!"

Kevin

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     Posted Nov-4 2:20 PM   
Christine
 
From  Christine  Posts 287  Last 3:16 AM
To  Kevin Fulton      [Msg # 65704.7 Message 65704.7 replying to 65704.6 65704.6 ]    

Kevin and Jo!

I will share your mails with my friends. I am SO jealous that they get to go and I can't stow away. Ah well. I am saving for my trip to tour Outlander country soon. Grinning.

Kevin the skull story is priceless. I love it. Thanks for your time to reply to me.

Christine

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS, IT'S ABOUT LEARNING TO DANCE IN THE RAIN -

CHRISTINE

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     Posted Nov-4 5:06 PM   
Donna Rubino
 
From  Donna Rubino  Posts 3259  Last Nov-17
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.8 Message 65704.8 replying to 65704.1 65704.1 ]    

Dear Christine,

Ireland's amazing, it just depends on how much time your friends have to travel. My daughter and I did a driving trip of about 8 days, and we didn't have enough time to see all the things we had on our list.

The Ring of Kerry is enchanting. You'll see lots of quaint villages, there's lots of places to walk out or hike. You can spend anywhere from 2 days to 5 in Kerry. I think, on the west coast of Kerry, there's a historic fishing village noted on the tour maps. If you're into windswept, ancient cemeteries with stone church ruins, stop there. If not, pass it by. Also in the Kerry Ring  in the southwest, in Killarney, are the ancient ruins of Mucross Abbey, which is part of the estate called Muckross House, a lovely historic home with gardens. The Muckross Weavers are outstanding. Lots of lovely woolens to buy. In Killarney as well, lots of loverly woolens to buy. (We stayed at the Killarney Royal Hotel, in the town center. Fabulous place, good food, right near shopping. <g>)

If you follow the coast south from Dublin (Airport), you can visit Waterford, famous for its crystal. Continuing counterclockwise around Kerry, you'll come to the Cliffs of Moher, breathtaking. From there, we went on to Galway and the Aran Islands, a cool place out in the bay, but beware of the ferry in foul weather if you have a weak stomach. <g> No cars are allowed on the island, and it's incredibly pastoral. Following the coast north, you'll come to Galway, where there are some historic homes you may like to see.

Well to the north, the Giant's Causeway is an amazing natural feature in Northern Ireland--County Antrim, I believe. the causeway looks like stone pillars hammered into the ground and sheared off flat. Really cool.

And of course, there's Blarney Castle.

Newgrange is a Neolithic (or older?) complex somewhat north of Dublin on the east coast, in County Meath. It's incredible, but if they go there, be sure they check the tour times and availability. I think you can reserve tickets in advance. If you can, do so, the tours fill up on a first come first serve basis. They do fill up fast, and they're spaced some 3-4 hours apart.

Dublin's neat and has its own flavor but I found it dirty and lacking. The museum's nice, but since I live close to the Met, the Guggenheim, MOMA and others in NYC, I was underwhelmed. The cathedral's gorgeous.

It seems to me that Ireland is its most lovely outside Dublin. The small towns are lovely, the people are delightful. I'm sure they'll have a lovely time, and will bring you back a gorgeous sweater, shawl or blanket. <vbg>

Donna

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#9 of 19

     Posted Nov-4 9:32 PM   
Tess
 
From  Tess  Posts 1329  Last Nov-21
To  Kevin Fulton      [Msg # 65704.9 Message 65704.9 replying to 65704.6 65704.6 ]    
Dear Kevin,

Goodness, where _haven't_ you been? <g> Do you still have that skull?
 
Tess (who is trying to decide on the next destination & thinks she ought to consult you)
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#10 of 19

     Posted Nov-5 9:00 AM   
Kevin Fulton
 
From  Kevin Fulton  Posts 942  Last Nov-16
To  Tess      [Msg # 65704.10 Message 65704.10 replying to 65704.9 65704.9 ]    (Unread)
Hi Tess,
Goodness, where _haven't_ you been?

To be honest, I'm not an adventurous traveler. I'm terrified of the 3rd World, for example -- too great a risk of civil insurrection and disease. If I find a place I like, I tend to go back and explore it more deeply.

Do you still have that skull?

That's another story.

Kevin


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     Posted Nov-5 9:15 AM   
helen
 
From  helen  Posts 878  Last Nov-11
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.11 Message 65704.11 replying to 65704.1 65704.1 ]    

Christine,

I have never been to Ireland ( sacrilege I know), though I live on mainland Britain.

What I do know is the weather forecast....... and all the rain that trundles over the Atlantic, drops all the wet stuff on the first bit of land it hits........namely Ireland <g>   the country is known for its lush, green landscape for the reason I've just mentioned!

My advice to your friends is to take the largest umbrella they can manage <g>. I don't know when they are coming over but I assume fairly soon. It's beginning to get cold in this neck of the woods  but absolutely nothing like Northern USA and nowhere near as arctic as your state of Colorado (brrrrr!!!).

The Irish are renowned for being friendly, especially ( as everywhere else) out of the main cities. Your  friends should enjoy the Irish hospitality and must try and drink at  least one pint of the famous Guiness on their travels around this beautiful country.

 

I wish them  Bon Voyage and a most enjoyable holiday

Helen

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     Posted Nov-5 10:03 AM   
helen
 
From  helen  Posts 878  Last Nov-11
To  Kevin Fulton      [Msg # 65704.12 Message 65704.12 replying to 65704.6 65704.6 ]    

Kevin,

Ah well, you are talking of a nation renowned for its blarney <g>

Helen

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#13 of 19

     Posted Nov-5 10:27 AM   
Christine
 
From  Christine  Posts 287  Last 3:16 AM
To  helen      [Msg # 65704.13 Message 65704.13 replying to 65704.11 65704.11 ]    

Helen!

I am grinning from ear to ear. My friends will GLADLY handle any ale offered with glee. This is a trip to the homeland for HIM, and I believe for her as well. It is their 25th anniversary gift to one another. I have to tell you how OLD that makes me feel, these are KIDS to me, people I have literally known all of their lives, and can easily remember, like yesterday, their wedding. TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO? Oh My GOD, (as my teenager students say) They have both asked me to extend their warmest thanks for the guidance from everyone who responded, they are taking serious note of the advice received. I believe they are not leaving until May 2010.

Colorado has been extremely cold for this time of year this past couple of weeks. The DAYS are like balmy spring. In the 70's nearly every day. NIGHT, however, will give you a strong desire to huddle under the comforter and hide. Temps here (at relatively low altitude) of 17-18º are normal at night. My school bus has been plugged in to a block heater for three weeks every night. My friend who is sitting here says to tell you that the chill is part of the "Rocky Mountain High".

Groan. Thanks again for all the helpful tips for my friends. I am SO jealous, I wanna stow away but can't afford to be away from work long enough. Life happens.

CHRISTINE

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS, IT'S ABOUT LEARNING TO DANCE IN THE RAIN -

CHRISTINE

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     Posted Nov-5 12:44 PM   
helen
 
From  helen  Posts 878  Last Nov-11
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.14 Message 65704.14 replying to 65704.13 65704.13 ]    

Christine,

May 2010.....it'll still be raining and the Guiness will still be on tap <g>

Here's hoping a leprechaun brings you the luck of the Irish and you get to go on that trip!

Stay warm!

Helen

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     Posted Nov-5 6:26 PM   
Mary B.
 
From  Mary B.  Posts 116  Last Nov-16
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.15 Message 65704.15 replying to 65704.1 65704.1 ]    

Christine,

Our most recent trip to Ireland was August 07 and we set up base camp in a lovely guesthouse located about halfway between Limerick and Cork (www.springfieldcastle.com), from which many  attractions of the west/south or Ireland were a quick daytrip:  Cliffs of Moher, Killarney/lakes, Dingle Peninsula, Ring of Kerry, and Cork (which has become a great culinary center of Ireland).  The "castle" itself was the perfect place to stay and the caretakers there, Betty and Jonathan Sykes, could not have been more welcoming. Betty is actually the sister of the 9th Lord Muskerry, lord of the manor, so to speak.  There were lots of grounds, for walking and exploring (the graveyard at night!), horses, an working organic deer farm (Jonathan took us on a hayride type ride out to "meet" and pet the deer), organic garden where we could gather greens for our dinner salads---all on the property of a 500+plus year old castle ruin.

As always, we were charmed by the lovely warmth of the Irish people, enchanted by the "terrible beauty" of the countryside and coast, fascinated by the history lessons, and of course, enjoyed Guiness daily (even the non-Guiness drinkers liked to have a bit each day--it just tastes so darned good over there). 

I hope your friends don't have too many "soft days" (rainy) and have a great trip!

 

--Mary

 

 

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     Posted Nov-8 12:30 AM   
kc dyer
 
From  kc dyer  Posts 3710  Last Nov-18
To  jo bourne      [Msg # 65704.16 Message 65704.16 replying to 65704.3 65704.3 ]    
Hi Jo,

Me, too!

Train from Italy in a heatwave. Dublin in the rain was heavenly!

~karen

Author of A WALK THROUGH A WINDOW, MS.ZEPHYR'S NOTEBOOK & the Eagle Glen Trilogy

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     Posted Nov-8 9:47 AM   
jo bourne
 
From  jo bourne  Posts 1979  Last 12:05 AM
To  kc dyer      [Msg # 65704.17 Message 65704.17 replying to 65704.16 65704.16 ]    

Hi Karen --

I loved Ireland.

My first impression of Europe in general was that it was cold and rainy.  But then, I was comparing it to the American South.

 

JoB

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     Posted Nov-8 8:52 PM   
stevenlopata
 
From  stevenlopata  Posts 88  Last Nov-20
To  Christine      [Msg # 65704.18 Message 65704.18 replying to 65704.1 65704.1 ]    

Dear Christine,
I scanned the replies to your question and found nothing about Northern Ireland. It is at peace now. This June, I accompanied my grand-daughter's Rugby team on a tour of Ireland (they are undefeated abroad, a claim that not many high school teams of any sort can make.)

We went by motor coach and saw some of the things recommended to you. I heartily agree with most, although I found Dublin to be fascinating. The northern part of our tour included the city of Derry. It has an interesting history from the time it was founded by merchants to the troubles and beyond. The girls did not get to play there, but they did train with one of the local coaches who played for Ireland until he got too old (28).

My favorite town was Galway. It is wonderful for walking. The Aran Islands were worth visiting as well. They are picturesque and quite a few people make their living farming and raising sheep. Their woolens are worth having too. Limerick was another neat place for walking and browsing shops. We saw Bunratty Castle while there. It is not just an old, restored castle, the owners have imported many homes and buildings from various periods of Irish history and made an historic village around the castle.

Steve

PS Don't forget about the cliffs of Moher.

PPS The Giant's Causeway is part of the same formation as Fingall's Cave in Scotland's Isle of Staffa.


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     Posted Nov-9 12:45 AM   
kc dyer
 
From  kc dyer  Posts 3710  Last Nov-18
To  jo bourne      [Msg # 65704.19 Message 65704.19 replying to 65704.17 65704.17 ]    
I loved Ireland then, and still love it now. Hoping to go back in the next year or so. And my girl is trying to get a university exchange to Dublin for next year -- how wonderful would THAT be? <g>

I live in the Vancouver temperate rainforest. Ireland seems like a green and pearly jewel to me now. Don't even think of the rain! <g>

~karen

Author of A WALK THROUGH A WINDOW, MS.ZEPHYR'S NOTEBOOK & the Eagle Glen Trilogy

Find out more at kcdyer.com

Blogging at leftwriter
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