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Google Earth Quiz No. 2

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#1 of 11

     Posted 2/26/09 5:40 AM   
David Woodbury (SysOp)
 
From  David Woodbury (SysOp)  Posts 2403  Last 6/23/09
To  lukelemke      [Msg # 127994.1 ]    
Hi Luke, and everybody,
 
A long time ago you were asking about a second installment of the Google Earth Quiz on my blog, and I finally got around to adding something tonight. For those who missed it, the first Quiz can be found here. Once you've scrutinzed the photos, you can find the answers here.

The second quiz is explained below. You can visit the blog site to click on the thumbnails for larger views, or look at them here.

Google Earth Quiz Number Two

A little over a year ago, I posted a series of photos from Google Earth—satellite views of Civil War battlefields—and invited people to try to identify as many as possible. It's a very different perspective than you're used to, but many of you are so oriented toward maps in studying Civil War battles, the topographical clues soon lead to recognition. I had planned to do a second quiz long before now, and the good people over at TOCWOC put it back into mind with their posting of coordinates for various battlefields.

For Quiz Number Two, I've given you six photos of battlefields already lost to development. This makes it a little more challenging, since familiar battlefield landmarks are non-existent. To aid your efforts, I've given you additional (easy?) clues in the accompanying captions, including whether it's Eastern or Western Theater, and some modern roadways. If you're a veteran of organized Civil War campaign tours, some of these should jump right out at you. Of course, if you live in one of these areas, that should help too.

Repeating a passage from the last time around: Post your answers as comments to this blog entry, and in a day or two I'll identify each image, and post some maps and other photos to show how the fighting transpired, or how the troops were aligned in these landscapes. I'll also heap plaudits upon the winner, if there is one. Click on each image for a larger view. Good luck.

No. 1: The tiny yellow pushpin in the center shows all that's left of this Northern Virginia battlefield. The large diagonal road above is U.S. 50. The large diagonal road below it is Interstate 66.

No. 2: The pushpin in the center denotes the site where a Union general was killed in a western battle. That big road, Interstate 20, was not there at the time—Sherman could have made good use of it.

No. 3: On this Tennessee hill, the Federals broke through the Confederate left, and it was all downhill for the Rebels after that. The hill was renamed for a Confederate Colonel who died there.

No. 4: The fort on this site was at the center of the Confederate line in a June, 1864 battle. Federal troops under David Hunter failed in their hours-long assault against this position. I've left the road names visible, guessing that most people are not that familiar with this neighborhood. Note some of the street names: Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire. Cruel Reconstruction joke?


No. 5: Federals in the Western Theater captured this Confederate fort, which is now home to the fishes. It was wet at the time of the war, but not this wet.


No. 6: Now a historic ghost town in the Deep South, somewhere near the center of this photo is the site of a POW camp for Union soldiers, whose misery was compounded every time the river left its banks.

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     Posted 2/26/09 10:46 AM   
jhnlncstr
 
From  jhnlncstr  Posts 1466  Last 9:54 AM
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127994.2 Message 127994.2 replying to 127994.1 127994.1 ]    

David,

O.K., I'll take a stab at three of your sites:

2. The death site of McPherson at the battle of Atlanta

4. Lynchburg, Virginia, Battle of, June 17-18, 1864

5. The River Battery at Fort Henry, Tennessee

RYOS, John
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     Posted 2/27/09 7:56 AM   
lukelemke
 
From  lukelemke  Posts 193  Last Jan-12
To  jhnlncstr      [Msg # 127994.3 Message 127994.3 replying to 127994.2 127994.2 ]    

>>Fort Henry<<

Another sattelite view of Fort Henry can be found on Yahoo Maps.  http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=s&lat=36.502595&lon=-88.033913&zoom=16
It looks to be at low water and shows an underwater ridge formation running north along the old channel to a point right where David's push pin is located.  McPherson's map of Ft Henry in Men of Fire (and in the Atlas to accompany ORs) shows that same higher ground with a swampy area between the fort and the now permanent bank.  The road loops across a small channel and approaches the earthworks from the south.  I imagine that the walls have long washed away.   

Luke

 

 

 

 

 

 

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     Posted 2/27/09 10:20 AM   
jhnlncstr
 
From  jhnlncstr  Posts 1466  Last 9:54 AM
To  lukelemke      [Msg # 127994.4 Message 127994.4 replying to 127994.3 127994.3 ]    

Luke,

IIRR, during the battle, the water battery was unuseable because of high water. Since the TVA built the dam and created the lake, the battery is flooded. The Google Earth view shows Fort Henry on dry ground.

RYOS, John
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     Posted 2/27/09 9:40 PM   
David Woodbury (SysOp)
 
From  David Woodbury (SysOp)  Posts 2403  Last 6/23/09
To  jhnlncstr      [Msg # 127994.5 Message 127994.5 replying to 127994.2 127994.2 ]    

You're good, John -- all correct. Luke aced it as well, sending me correct answers for all six via email.

David

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#6 of 11

     Posted 2/28/09 6:47 AM   
lukelemke
 
From  lukelemke  Posts 193  Last Jan-12
To  jhnlncstr      [Msg # 127994.6 Message 127994.6 replying to 127994.2 127994.2 ]    

>>>death site of McPherson <<<

Atlanta.  Seems like we were just there.

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#7 of 11

     Posted 6/4/09 9:02 AM   
lukelemke
 
From  lukelemke  Posts 193  Last Jan-12
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127994.7 Message 127994.7 replying to 127994.1 127994.1 ]    

Good morning David. After you "Map Lovers" post I had to revive you Google Earth Quiz from last winter. Over at obab.com Brett Schulte posted five of the answers with Anonymous adding the location for the POW camp. How you came up with that one as a question I will never know. Sort of like the Minnesota Indian battles?

Luke

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     Posted 6/4/09 4:15 PM   
David Woodbury (SysOp)
 
From  David Woodbury (SysOp)  Posts 2403  Last 6/23/09
To  lukelemke      [Msg # 127994.8 Message 127994.8 replying to 127994.7 127994.7 ]    (Unread)

My wife had an ancestor imprisoned at Cahaba, and it was much on my mind with a new book on the Sultana (subsequently released): "Sultana: Surviving the Civil War, Prison, and the Worst Maritime Disaster in American History," by Alan Huffman.

dw

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#9 of 11

     Posted 6/5/09 12:33 AM   
Dave Mercado
 
From  Dave Mercado  Posts 232  Last Feb-8
To  David Woodbury (SysOp)      [Msg # 127994.9 Message 127994.9 replying to 127994.1 127994.1 ]    
No. 3 was originally named Compton's Hill for the family that lived nearby. After the Battle is was renamed Shy's Hill for Col. William Shy who died defending it.
Best regards,
Dave
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     Posted 6/6/09 12:19 AM   
lukelemke
 
From  lukelemke  Posts 193  Last Jan-12
To  Dave Mercado      [Msg # 127994.10 Message 127994.10 replying to 127994.9 127994.9 ]    
Its the beauty of mapping technology. Years ago, passing through Nashville, I looked for Shy's Hill and several of the other sites. Just on impulse. No prep work and no guidebooks. No success either. Now with Google Earth and the other mapping programs, the success rate has increased. Last year in Chattanooga, I was able to plan and locate a route to "Billy Goat Hill", the hill that Sherman captured, thinking that he was on Missionary Ridge. Pleased to discover State of Tennessee ownership signs marking a good portion of the high ground.
Luke
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     Posted 6/6/09 8:47 PM   
Dave Mercado
 
From  Dave Mercado  Posts 232  Last Feb-8
To  lukelemke      [Msg # 127994.11 Message 127994.11 replying to 127994.10 127994.10 ]    (Unread)

> Last year in Chattanooga, I was able to plan and locate a route to "Billy Goat Hill", the hill that Sherman
> captured, thinking that he was on Missionary Ridge

Luke,
Yes, General Sherman was not a man of topology, tactics or much else.
On November 24, 1863 the day before the main Battle of Chattanooga was to be fought, Sherman was to take the southern end of Tunnel Hill, which was lightly defended, in preparation for his turning the Rebel right flank the next morning. Somehow he wound up on Billy Goat Hill about a mile north, as the crow flies, from where he should have been.

During the night the Rebels under General Cleburne then had time to place re-enforcements on Tunnel Hill and slaughtered the boys of blue when they tried to take it the next day. Later Sherman would blame "wrongly laid-down maps" for his fiasco. Only GPS perhaps could have idiot-proofed Sherman as the maps he had were very clear. See the link for the map Sherman had at his disposal. Click on "Grant's battle map" and zoom-in on the top right corner for details. http://www.aotc.net/SmithsMap.htm

Best regards,
Dave

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