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#1 of 20

     Posted Sep-24 5:18 PM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 3217  Last Nov-19
To  All      [Msg # 20742.1 ]    

Often, during the early time of a school year, the school holds a get to together where the parents get to meet the teacher.  My youngest son's school required us to walk with him around to each class, I guess so we could experience his schedule.

I wonder if that is the best way to use our time?  Would face to face telephone conferences, via the internet, be better?   More privacey, less interruptions,  and more efficient scheduling?  Whatcha think?

 

James1

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     Posted Sep-25 12:01 AM   
Sweetems
 
From  Sweetems  Posts 30  Last Nov-15
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.2 Message 20742.2 replying to 20742.1 20742.1 ]    
We just had open house at the school I work at. It does get a bit hectic when you're trying to talk to parents individually, and there are many others waiting, and you have limited time. Most teachers do a 'presentation' type of thing at open house night, discussing curriculum and expectations, etc., then schedule conferences for interrested parents. Face to face conference via internet sounds good, but that kind of technology isn't quite that widespread yet. I'm sure we'll offer it as an option soon. As Choral Director, I hold a short presentation  in the auditorium, and Q & A session afterward. Any remaining time is used for individual discussions. 

          ~Tiffany~

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     Posted Sep-28 8:38 AM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 104  Last Nov-19
To  Sweetems      [Msg # 20742.3 Message 20742.3 replying to 20742.2 20742.2 ]    

Are the presentations done by the teachers themselves, or do they play a CD/DVD?  I had heard that DVD's were being used in our local high school, at least partially-as something from the prinicipal.

 

 

James1

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     Posted Sep-28 10:27 PM   
Sweetems
 
From  Sweetems  Posts 30  Last Nov-15
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.4 Message 20742.4 replying to 20742.3 20742.3 ]    
As far as I'm aware, they're all in person. This is good, so they can immediately answer any questions that may come up. 

          ~Tiffany~

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     Posted Sep-29 8:12 AM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 104  Last Nov-19
To  Sweetems      [Msg # 20742.5 Message 20742.5 replying to 20742.4 20742.4 ]    

Yeah, but what kind of questions does a parent have then?  I think the conference should be later, or at least, a private second conference.

 

James1

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     Posted Sep-29 9:20 PM   
Sweetems
 
From  Sweetems  Posts 30  Last Nov-15
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.6 Message 20742.6 replying to 20742.5 20742.5 ]    
The questions which typically get asked to me, and ones that I hear of from other faculty, consist of more general stuff like curriculum, or our expectations of the students. When it comes to the 'my kid' questions, that usually gets scheduled at a later date. Some teachers only have a handful of students, where they can use open-house time for conferences. However, ones like me, who have hundreds of students, cannot do that. After the presentations are over, the time afterward ends up being more of a meet-and-greet session, because many parents just want to meet the adults who are spending so much time with their kids.

          ~Tiffany~

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     Posted Oct-2 8:35 PM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 104  Last Nov-19
To  Sweetems      [Msg # 20742.7 Message 20742.7 replying to 20742.6 20742.6 ]    

And, I guess it has to be that way.  All that a class room teacher can talk about, the first or second week of school, is what (s)he intends to cover in class, and maybe some class procedures.  It usually takes at least one testing cycle before a teacher develops a professional knowledge of the student.

I think that first conference could be done via video, cd, or letter.

 

James1

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     Posted Oct-5 4:10 PM   
Kathleen
 
From  Kathleen  Posts 1252  Last Nov-18
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.8 Message 20742.8 replying to 20742.7 20742.7 ]    
James, I've had 2 parent-teacher conference evenings already, and it's just October. The first one was for all the parents of my mentor class. Parents of 12 students (of 21) came. It was general information about the curriculum this year and the "practical sector orientation" that takes place at another school. Sometimes I think they show up just to hear me speak my own brand of Dutch! The 2nd conference was an individual 10 minute talk with the parent or caregiver of any of my (110) students. That's when I talk about individual "issues" (to borrow the American word for 'problem'). I talk about dyslexia and what we can do about it, fear of failure and how we approach that, social problems and what we have to offer in that realm, and family issues that impact a student's ability to concentrate and learn. I had 8 parents show up for that evening. Interim report cards come out next week. I'll probably see different parents for the 10 minute conference evening that follows the week long autumn holiday. PS...I can't imagine the parents following their kid around to all the classrooms to meet all the teachers. ACK! Changing classes is bedlam during the day! Tooo many kids in motion at one time! kathleen
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     Posted Oct-5 7:54 PM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 104  Last Nov-19
To  Kathleen      [Msg # 20742.9 Message 20742.9 replying to 20742.8 20742.8 ]    

And who knows, maybe a parent will think (s)he is back in school again?

 

James1(with worried look on his face)

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     Posted Oct-13 9:28 PM   
Sweetems
 
From  Sweetems  Posts 30  Last Nov-15
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.10 Message 20742.10 replying to 20742.7 20742.7 ]    
It usually takes at least one testing cycle before a teacher develops a professional knowledge of the student.

I think that first conference could be done via video, cd, or letter.


Off the record, I also think it could....even though I'm still somewhat in favor of face to face meetings. It makes things more personal. However, we must follow what we're instructed to do. It used to be that conferences were done mid-year. Now, they say they want to take a more proactive approach to intervention.  

          ~Tiffany~

www.myspace.com/powersinger1985



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     Posted Oct-15 12:24 AM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 104  Last Nov-19
To  Sweetems      [Msg # 20742.11 Message 20742.11 replying to 20742.10 20742.10 ]    

>>Now, they say they want to take a more proactive approach to intervention.  <<

But at what cost?  The utilities, baby sitting costs, time of the parents, time of the teachers (don't they have to be paid for this time?) , time of the staff?    Just to meet?  Sorry, I think it is a horrible waste and communication could be done more efficiently and appropriately.  Why not set up an appointment for each parent the first 30 days of school?  Ten minutes each, or have the teachers come by a room to meet each parent.  They can have their own handouts for the parents (especially if the handout is the same for the kids ).

 

James1

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     Posted Oct-15 10:27 PM   
Sweetems
 
From  Sweetems  Posts 30  Last Nov-15
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.12 Message 20742.12 replying to 20742.11 20742.11 ]    
On occasion, I had certain new students who exhibited odd behavior. Within seconds after meeting or just observing the families, I understood the students far more than I probably ever would otherwise, and it helped greatly for me to work better with them. 

          ~Tiffany~

www.myspace.com/powersinger1985


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     Posted Oct-24 11:10 PM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 3217  Last Nov-19
To  Sweetems      [Msg # 20742.13 Message 20742.13 replying to 20742.12 20742.12 ]    

OK, that probably does work with special ed or challenged kids.  Why everone else?

 

James1

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     Posted Oct-24 11:50 PM   
Sweetems
 
From  Sweetems  Posts 30  Last Nov-15
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.14 Message 20742.14 replying to 20742.13 20742.13 ]    
Actually, what I was referring to, were behavioral issues in academically normal students, caused by actions of family members. After meeting with parents and siblings, I get to understand them better, and adjust my communication to those students accordingly.

          ~Tiffany~

www.myspace.com/powersinger1985


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     Posted Nov-5 7:48 AM   
Mike K.
 
From  Mike K.  Posts 63  Last Nov-20
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.15 Message 20742.15 replying to 20742.1 20742.1 ]    
James,

Around here we have what is essentially a "meet the teacher" night for elementary school students where the teachers the discusses their background, teaching philosophy, planned curriculum, classroom policies, and the like.   The mechanics actual presentation may vary between schools; larger schools may do it on a classroom basis while smaller schools may use an assembly for an entire grade.  There is typically a question and answer period after the presentation (or at points during it).  You are correct in that there would be other ways to accomplish the same thing -- a webcast, DVD, or even something as simple as a letter or booklet.  Of course, the more technological methods would require the family to have access to that technology and be able to use it.

At the end of the first two or three grading periods there are also "parent-teacher" conferences, lasting 15-20 minutes, where parents can sit down with the teacher in a private setting to discuss the student's progress (or lack there of).  My limited experience is that teachers and administrators are generally available any other time for phone or in-person conferences should the parent need or desire much a meeting.

There middle (junior high) schools and high schools have a more elaborate orientation program for first-time students.  From what I've heard it sounds much like you son's school did; an abbreviated class schedule with an opportunity to meet the teachers and staff.

I would agree that the "meet the teacher" nights are generally not a very efficient use of time.

Mike

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     Posted Nov-7 4:19 AM   
Kathleen
 
From  Kathleen  Posts 1252  Last Nov-18
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.16 Message 20742.16 replying to 20742.11 20742.11 ]    

>>>>But at what cost?... time of the teachers (don't they have to be paid for this time?)

We get no additional salary for parent-teacher evenings, James. It's all part of the job. We do get additional salary for going on a week long field trip to Slovakia or Sweden or the Czech Republic, but I never volunteer for those. Too many home responsibilities....and tooooo long on the bus!

>>> Why not set up an appointment for each parent the first 30 days of school? Ten minutes each, or have the teachers come by a room to meet each parent.<<<

Let's see....In my teaching job I begin my day at 8:30, have a half hour lunch and two 15 minute breaks (when I'm usually changing classrooms, at the copy machine, having quick conferences with colleagues, putting information into an e-mail, etc. etc) and I finish teaching at 3:10 (Tues.) or 4:00 PM (Wed,Thurs) If I have a conference set up with a parent, it's at 4:15 on Thursdays. I attend a 'coaching' course twice a month until 6:00PM and every Monday we're finished at 2:10 and it's a 'meeting day' until 5:00PM. An appointment for each parent in the first 30 days of school?? I have 110 students!

I agree with what Sweetums said...sometimes meeting a parent face-to-face gives so much more information about a kid. It can be an 'ahh-ha' moment.

We have another parents information evening on the 17th...when we will explain the "life style" mentoring method we use, the requirements for each level of study in the 3rd and 4th year (there are several) and the sort of "study hall" method we use. I think we have about 400 students in this particular department at our school. We might get 60 parents who attend.

While we don't get paid anything extra for these parent-teacher meetings, we do meet in the teachers' room afterwards for wine, beer and snacks. I suppose that's a benefit!

kathleen

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     Posted Nov-7 6:42 AM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 3217  Last Nov-19
To  Kathleen      [Msg # 20742.17 Message 20742.17 replying to 20742.16 20742.16 ]    

Don't you think that parents have just as tight a schedule?  I have been teaching at the college/university level since 1973, and its part of our contract that we will meet with students, during "office" hours.  For the parent not interested, or for the parent with a child who is making straight A's, taking AP courses, a tour of the high school is probably a waste of time. 

Sometimes we have to watch and stop someone from building a custom, or accumulating power over people.  I have heard teachers say that they think they ought to report it as neglect when a parent doesn't show up for these conferences. I think that is a bit absurb.  A parent might be working, or on orders fighting in the military in Afghanistan, or simply think very little of teachers.  Or the parent may already be attending required training imposed by a social worker because the parent missed last years meeting!  I just think that parent should be left in charge, not the school, not the social workers, not the grand parents, etc.

 

IMHO

 

James1

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     Posted Nov-7 10:59 AM   
Kathleen
 
From  Kathleen  Posts 1252  Last Nov-18
To  James1      [Msg # 20742.18 Message 20742.18 replying to 20742.17 20742.17 ]    

>>Don't you think that parents have just as tight a schedule?<<<

I sure do! I'm one of them!

>>>I have been teaching at the college/university level since 1973, and its part of our contract that we will meet with students, during "office" hours.<<<

That's on a college level. You don't have parent-teacher meetings at college. That would be silly. Students can make an appointment to see you during office hours, or you may choose to have open hours on certain days, no appointment necessary. It's a system that works.

>>>for the parent with a child who is making straight A's, taking AP courses, a tour of the high school is probably a waste of time.<<<

and yet THEY are the ones who show up!

kathleen

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     Posted Nov-8 4:52 AM   
Sweetems
 
From  Sweetems  Posts 30  Last Nov-15
To  Kathleen      [Msg # 20742.19 Message 20742.19 replying to 20742.18 20742.18 ]    
and yet THEY are the ones who show up!

Isn't that the truth!  From what I've seen, most of the parents who do show, are those of students who already do exceptionally well, and are trying to promote their kids further, like a product.  The remaining parents, are usually concerned ones of struggling students....and those I like to focus on. Contrary to how some of the other faculty do things, I tend to work more intensely with students who try, but have not achieved much....yet.
This frustrates some of the families of 'A' students, because they are not getting as much of the spotlight in my choral groups. I'm just giving the other students a chance to excel. I cannot count how many times I have seen 'C' and 'D' students, and social outcasts, shock audiences of their peers, with their wonderful voices. This, in turn, usually improves those students' social lives.

          ~Tiffany~

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     Posted Nov-9 11:54 PM   
James1
 
From  James1  Posts 104  Last Nov-19
To  Sweetems      [Msg # 20742.20 Message 20742.20 replying to 20742.19 20742.19 ]    

>>Isn't that the truth!<<

I agree with that observation also.  Even in out of school groups, such as Scouting, the child who advances often has a very supportive, knowledgable parent.  In U.S. Boy Scouting, the number of boys who attain the Eagle rank has moved from 1 and 1/2 percent of those boys who join, to about 4 percent.  The leadership did an analysis of why the increase, and found out that parents have become much more involved in  seeing that the boys do advance in the program, to the point that many of the parents volunteer to become leaders, thereby being able to spend fun, valuable time with their kid while he is growing up.

Still, with all the loss of time, I wish that we did not HAVE to attend a school conference.

 

James1

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