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#1 of 24

     Posted Aug-1 11:00 AM   
Hemlock
 
From  Hemlock  Posts 514  Last Nov-18
To  All      [Msg # 60392.1 ]    

I was looking at a picture of a local french village Bastille day cooking pot of pea soup (with added hogs head)  that had been simmering for a day or two.

Then I came to thinking about sailors food and rations of sailors of the various 18/19th sailors in the Royal Navy and others.

And I thought of military folk today -who may have to live of the land -with basics and no cooking possible.

Anyway I am reading a book on 'Feeding Nelsons Navy ' which is interesting -so are the recipes !!!!!!!!!!!

I came across

www.chathampublishing.com

specialises in maritime stuff

And I learnt how to make double baked biscuits -the kind we used to eat as young RAF Aprentices  for supper -long ago. With cocoa (thick) and very hard cheese. Young hungry men with no money would eat anything. Hardtack -it was called. Hot water-an OXO cube  and soak and break the 4" x 4" edges.

I even came across 'Night Blindness' -caused by loss of vitamin A -which sailors had if the vitamin was replace in the liver.

Years later  there was a song and dance in WW2 and night fighter pilots -the hide the invention of night fighter radar.

Oh well -must lash up and stow-housework to do !!!

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     Posted Aug-2 9:15 AM   
Rosemary
 
From  Rosemary  Posts 842  Last Sep-19
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.2 Message 60392.2 replying to 60392.1 60392.1 ]    

Double baked biscuits....surely that is hardtack? I love the llight a fluffy ones to sop up the left over egg on the plat at breakfast.  Haven't had them in ages, oatmeal now...no good fatty bacon  and eggs.  rosemary

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     Posted Aug-2 4:54 PM   
Hemlock
 
From  Hemlock  Posts 514  Last Nov-18
To  Rosemary      [Msg # 60392.3 Message 60392.3 replying to 60392.2 60392.2 ]    

Good day rosemary ----------------yes different age and different time.

I still have eggs----------hard boiled in the summer.but yes certain hardtack biscuits are nice when dunked .

I remember when rusks were popular for young kids .

And I still like boiled eggs with toast soldiers -with a sliver of marmite or vegemite.

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     Posted Aug-4 8:24 PM   
Rosemary
 
From  Rosemary  Posts 842  Last Sep-19
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.4 Message 60392.4 replying to 60392.3 60392.3 ]    
My little  garden is just beginning to produce, and I love peppers and/or new tomatos in an omelet with cheese for breakfast.  it is my Saturday or Sunday treat.  Hard boiled eggs means egg salad to me!  Lots of mayo andmustard ...on home baked break. Yum     rosemary
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     Posted Aug-5 9:06 AM   
Hemlock
 
From  Hemlock  Posts 514  Last Nov-18
To  Rosemary      [Msg # 60392.5 Message 60392.5 replying to 60392.4 60392.4 ]    

My little  garden is just beginning to produce, and I love peppers and/or new tomatos in an omelet with cheese for breakfast.  it is my Saturday or Sunday treat.  Hard boiled eggs means egg salad to me!  Lots of mayo andmustard ...on home baked break. Yum     rosemary

 

Oh yes -and so nice are the things one grows.In fact I buy some frozen omelets with cheese-the only one that seems to work of the bought variety.

Oh yes home baked bread -that is a treat as well.

I have a SEVEN EGG steamer and use it for boiled soft to hard boiled

and of course the tools to cut the hard boiled and make devilled eggs etc -they sure go down well-as do egg and cress sandwiches.

Clemmy  is also a very skilled cook and baker.What the lady does not know about setting tables -probably not worth knowing !vbg

I bought an expensive cucumber slicer last year -made for those lovely cucumber sandwiches !!!!!!!!!!dead posh.

 

In England  -we still have High Tea - this is a sit down with knife and fork do -with such things as sliced ham or beef  or beef /lamb/pork pies-bread and butterlight sweets and cakes  and soft drink or tea and then cyder or wine.

And cold pickles and sauces.

 

Even in desperate times the ladies in the mining villages and towns in the North (1930s) used to put on their best dress  and meet in different houses (in the parlour)  and have afternoon tea.

They had simple small cakes (like seed cake) and in the centre was a big fruit cake ----------if it was disolayed with a knife -it was eatable -if not was for show.

In Derbyshire I once started dinned with yorkshire puddings and rasberry vinegar.

 

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     Posted Aug-7 8:41 PM   
Rosemary
 
From  Rosemary  Posts 842  Last Sep-19
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.6 Message 60392.6 replying to 60392.5 60392.5 ]    

Yorkshire pudding.  Yum yum.  Cucumbersndwiches  are ok with a spoonful of cream cheese!  I didn't know Clemmy was in england now...give her my best regards; it's been a while since we corresponded.  Probably before my husband passed away.Regards to you both, rosemary

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#7 of 24

     Posted Aug-8 9:03 PM   
Hemlock
 
From  Hemlock  Posts 514  Last Nov-18
To  Rosemary      [Msg # 60392.7 Message 60392.7 replying to 60392.6 60392.6 ]    

Good day Rosemary -Clemmy is still in America -it's some time since she was over here--------she has a full package of things to do.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sorry your husband died -----but some how we manage to carry on.

I have only one grandaughter  aged 25 -------------------------one hopes for a grandchild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How history changes for all of us.

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#8 of 24

     Posted Aug-9 9:50 AM   
Rosemary
 
From  Rosemary  Posts 842  Last Sep-19
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.8 Message 60392.8 replying to 60392.7 60392.7 ]    
Hi, I have lost Clemmy's address (computer failure, lost a lot of addresses a couple of years ago).  If you write to her please give her my new email address, or ask her to sign on to this site so we can get back together again.    I miss her messages.  Life changes, and yes, we do carry on, but there are empty spaces that are difficult to fill.  rosemary
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#9 of 24

     Posted Aug-14 11:12 PM   
Cass, Exec
 
From  Cass, Exec  Posts 5313  Last Nov-2
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.9 Message 60392.9 replying to 60392.3 60392.3 ]    
>And I still like boiled eggs with toast soldiers -with a sliver of marmite or vegemite.

Oh I hate vegemite, it's awful, Rye loves it though.  Ick <G>

Cass

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#10 of 24

     Posted Aug-14 11:14 PM   
Cass, Exec
 
From  Cass, Exec  Posts 5313  Last Nov-2
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.10 Message 60392.10 replying to 60392.1 60392.1 ]    
>And I thought of military folk today -who may have to live of the land -with basics and no cooking possible.

Think desert rats on a spit <G>  When the helos can't get the rations in, apparently they make good eating when you're hungry.  Little wee haggises too.

Cass

De oppresso liber.
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check Made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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#11 of 24

     Posted Aug-16 6:00 PM   
Hemlock
 
From  Hemlock  Posts 514  Last Nov-18
To  Cass, Exec      [Msg # 60392.11 Message 60392.11 replying to 60392.9 60392.9 ]    

Rye loves it though

Keeps the flies at bay !!!!!!!!vbgt

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#12 of 24

     Posted Sep-12 9:39 PM   
Cass, Exec
 
From  Cass, Exec  Posts 5313  Last Nov-2
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.12 Message 60392.12 replying to 60392.11 60392.11 ]    
>Keeps the flies at bay !!!!!!!!vbgt

It does that, but it leaves the house with him <G>

Cass

De oppresso liber.
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check Made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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#13 of 24

     Posted Sep-16 4:52 PM   
Hemlock
 
From  Hemlock  Posts 514  Last Nov-18
To  Cass, Exec      [Msg # 60392.13 Message 60392.13 replying to 60392.12 60392.12 ]    
Ah -the key to all true romances -separation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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     Posted Sep-26 5:19 PM   
Cass, Exec
 
From  Cass, Exec  Posts 5313  Last Nov-2
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.14 Message 60392.14 replying to 60392.13 60392.13 ]    
>Ah -the key to all true romances -separation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL, we'd rather not have that <G>

Cass

De oppresso liber.
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check Made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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     Posted Sep-27 9:55 AM   
Hemlock
 
From  Hemlock  Posts 514  Last Nov-18
To  All      [Msg # 60392.15 Message 60392.15 replying to 60392.13 60392.13 ]    

Strange but throughout history sad poems and sad love songs  seem the most popular.

Or perhaps souls parted are better or more prolific writers.There are women who dream and marry and still dream -some men lie  in bed beside them -and have nightmares -then wak up and find their nightmare has become a day dream of reality.(These are the cynics  or hypocrits-who must purge their unbelief with flowers and chocolates  or money !!)...vbg

But parting from someone one loves -because of war or service can bring that extra pain-and these days it can hapeen if mum and dad are in the services of Crown or  State.

Years ago soldiers and Sailors or Marines needed lots of calories -and the extras of rum and brandy and baccy  made their  lives more tolerable.

Does the navy still get the gravy -and the army just the beans ?????????????????

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     Posted Oct-5 5:17 PM   
Cass, Exec
 
From  Cass, Exec  Posts 5313  Last Nov-2
To  Hemlock      [Msg # 60392.16 Message 60392.16 replying to 60392.15 60392.15 ]    
>Strange but throughout history sad poems and sad love songs  seem the most popular.

Sad topics abound throughout life.  I think it's a coping mechanism.

>Or perhaps souls parted are better or more prolific writers.There are women who dream and marry and still dream -some men lie  in bed beside them -and have nightmares -then wak up and find their nightmare has become a day dream of reality.

And women and men who sleep during their nights halfway across the world and dream of the other, and wake to find the other isn't with them.  There's a lot to be sad about.

>Does the navy still get the gravy -and the army just the beans ?????????????????

The Navy has some of the best chow in the military.  Army is also good.  If you're down to MREs, they're still quite tasty, though not spicy enough for a lot of people.  I found that a big hit for the guys I was sending care packages to was salsa and all kinds of chile sauces, tobascos, etc. 

Cass

De oppresso liber.
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check Made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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     Posted Oct-5 5:23 PM   
JJ
 
From  JJ  Posts 19  Last Nov-15
To  Cass, Exec      [Msg # 60392.17 Message 60392.17 replying to 60392.16 60392.16 ]    
>>The Navy has some of the best chow in the military.  Army is also good.  If you're down to MREs, they're still quite tasty, though not spicy enough for a lot of people.<<

Having had the pleasure of sampling the culinary arts of most of the services (well, never the Coast Guard) as a civilian contractor with access to any of the mess halls, I can grade them as follows:

First and foremost, Navy Chief's Mess, followed by Army Non-Com's mess, AF Non-Com's, and finally Navy Officer's mess. In other words, the middle grades had the best chow.
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#18 of 24

     Posted Oct-6 9:10 AM   
Ted Hall (Wizop)
 
From  Ted Hall (Wizop)  Posts 76  Last Nov-17
To  Cass, Exec      [Msg # 60392.18 Message 60392.18 replying to 60392.16 60392.16 ]    
>>The Navy has some of the best chow in the military.<<

Years ago, during the SE Asia War Game, a friend of mine pointed out that as a Navy Cook there was NO PLACE TO GO on shipboard if the crew didn't like his cooking...

Great incentive for excellence!<VBG>

>> If you're down to MREs, they're still quite tasty<<

One of the Non-Government improvements there was the Tabasco sauce folks coming up with a miniature bottle and camouflaged holster to carry in on one's belt...

That was a very popular item back during my time in service, at least among the westerners and others in positions where MREs were a staple in the diet<VBG>

Ted C Hall
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     Posted Oct-7 8:01 PM   
Cass, Exec
 
From  Cass, Exec  Posts 5313  Last Nov-2
To  JJ      [Msg # 60392.19 Message 60392.19 replying to 60392.17 60392.17 ]    
>First and foremost, Navy Chief's Mess, followed by Army Non-Com's mess, AF Non-Com's, and finally Navy Officer's mess. In other words, the middle grades had the best chow.

They know who does the work <G>  I'd eat at the NCO Mess when I have access.

Cass

De oppresso liber.
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check Made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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     Posted Oct-7 8:05 PM   
Cass, Exec
 
From  Cass, Exec  Posts 5313  Last Nov-2
To  Ted Hall (Wizop)      [Msg # 60392.20 Message 60392.20 replying to 60392.18 60392.18 ]    
>Years ago, during the SE Asia War Game, a friend of mine pointed out that as a Navy Cook there was NO PLACE TO GO on shipboard if the crew didn't like his cooking...

Exactly, it better be good.   Getting steaks flown in for big chow downs of the SOF bases I'm told is quite the affair.  The SEALs brought Guinness the last time.

>One of the Non-Government improvements there was the Tabasco sauce folks coming up with a miniature bottle and camouflaged holster to carry in on one's belt...

I sent an entire case, maybe 300+ wee little bottles to a Marine unit in Anbar a few years ago, and I got he biggest hooah back from them, a post card that everyone signed.

Cass

De oppresso liber.
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life wrote a blank check Made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
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