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#1 of 18

     Posted Sep-24 10:04 PM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Stanley      [Msg # 128504.1 ]    
Stanley,

We have been driving all over Alberta and BC for the last couple of weeks in our RV. We are now in Surrey, BC, just to the south of Vancouver and planning on spending a week here. We rented a car for the time here so the RV can stay here hooked up in Surrey.

Since you never made it down to us as planned, we will like to reciprocate and take you out to dinner while we are up here in the Vancouver area.

I don't have your E-mail address or anything so I will try here. But I noticed you have not been in this forum for a while.

BTW, If there's no response here from Stanley, does anybody here know of a way for me to get a hold of him?

DonTom3@aol.com

-Don- In Surrey, BC, Canada
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     Posted Sep-25 1:15 AM   
Jerry - Sysop 6
 
From  Jerry - Sysop 6  Posts 1485  Last Nov-21
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.2 Message 128504.2 replying to 128504.1 128504.1 ]    

The forum members list shows his email address as shaw.ca but that looks like a funny email address to me.  You could try to go to the visitor's list, find his name, click on it and then click on 'send an email' or some such clickable link.  You should then be able to send him an email through the forum software.

 

(Value Liberty? Thank a Vet) Cheers, Jerry
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     Posted Sep-25 12:56 PM   
Tim Callahan^SYSOP
 
From  Tim Callahan^SYSOP  Posts 3937  Last Nov-21
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.3 Message 128504.3 replying to 128504.1 128504.1 ]    

Hi Don,

I've sent you Stanley's email via private mail. How is it in BC this time of year. I think you just missed the second hatching of mosquitos.

Tim

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     Posted Sep-25 2:01 PM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Tim Callahan^SYSOP      [Msg # 128504.4 Message 128504.4 replying to 128504.3 128504.3 ]    
Thanks!

I got your E-mail and just E-mailed him.

The weather has been perfect here in the Vancouver area. It was HOT when we were in Edmonton last week.

Here is a pix we took in Jasper National Park:

-Don- (in Surrey, BC, Canada)

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     Posted Sep-25 2:26 PM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Tim Callahan^SYSOP      [Msg # 128504.5 Message 128504.5 replying to 128504.3 128504.3 ]    
We made contact with Stanley, thanks again.

But he has the flu, so we will have to make it another time.

-Don- (in Surrey, BC)
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     Posted Sep-25 5:12 PM   
Tim Callahan^SYSOP
 
From  Tim Callahan^SYSOP  Posts 3937  Last Nov-21
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.6 Message 128504.6 replying to 128504.4 128504.4 ]    

Don: "The weather has been perfect here in the Vancouver area. It was HOT when we were in Edmonton last week."

Great photo from a beautiful area! Did you enter BC from Sandpoint, ID? I was born in Sandpoint and raised at Forest Service ranger stations around there. Half of my family is from BC. (Actually from Ireland initially. My side of the family entered the U.S. via "the back door" as they referred to it.) If you want to see an otherwise inaccessible and very beautiful area, take the restored train from Sandpoint to Livingston, MT.

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     Posted Sep-26 3:40 AM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Tim Callahan^SYSOP      [Msg # 128504.7 Message 128504.7 replying to 128504.6 128504.6 ]    
'Did you enter BC from Sandpoint, ID"

Yes! First we went up 395 to Spokane and then over to Coeur D' Lane and up through Sandpoint up the Idaho Panhandle to Canada. From there up to Edmonton, AB and then down through Jasper National Park, to Golden, BC and then here to the Vancouver area.

That sure is a nice area you're from! Great scenery up the Idaho Panhandle. We have only been to the southern part of the panhandle in the past, so this time we made sure to drive all the way through it.

The weather has been everything from perfect to too hot. I never thought the Edmonton area would get so warm. Even needed the A/C during the night!

Here in the Vancouver area it's always nice this time of year. We've been here in September many times before. But we've seen many new places on this trip which includes your home town.

The biggest shock to me was Kamloops. We were there in 1980 when there was only a few hundred people or so. Felt like a ghost town.Not any more.  Now, it's more  like a LA, CA!

-Don- (in Surrey, BC Canada)
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     Posted Oct-30 2:30 AM   
Stanley
 
From  Stanley  Posts 515  Last Nov-21
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.8 Message 128504.8 replying to 128504.7 128504.7 ]    
I had the flu, but I'm now over it. Thanks for the invite, anyway. :)

Anyone heard anything from Jim Heaton lately? Or Chuck Genthe? I know Jim's back in Ohio, but that's it.
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#9 of 18

     Posted Oct-30 8:27 AM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Stanley      [Msg # 128504.9 Message 128504.9 replying to 128504.8 128504.8 ]    
"I had the flu, but I'm now over it. Thanks for the invite, anyway. :)"

Well, we are back home. But I am sure we will be up that way again.

BTW, we ate at his rather weird restaurant while in Vancouver (see picture below). That's me standing in front of it, but this picture Tom took  at night with a cheap camera from across the street.

BTW, we're going to Hong Kong and China again in a couple of months.

-Don-

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     Posted Oct-30 2:43 PM   
Cpt Bill Edward
 
From  Cpt Bill Edward  Posts 4516  Last Nov-20
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.10 Message 128504.10 replying to 128504.9 128504.9 ]    

Don,

How come you guys didn't eat at an Indian syle, Chinese, Thai, Tex-Mex pizza joint ?

Next time you are in Vancouver there is a nice seafood place in Stanley Park over on English Bay side.  It has a lawn bolling green beside it and a couple of tennis courts nearby.    It looks like a cottage.   Can't remember the name and have not been there in around five years but have eaten there a few times and very good for either lunch or dinner.

Stanley may know the name.   English Bay is just across the road and parking area opposite the restaurant.

Bill

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     Posted Oct-30 11:47 PM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Cpt Bill Edward      [Msg # 128504.11 Message 128504.11 replying to 128504.10 128504.10 ]    
"How come you guys didn't eat at an Indian syle, Chinese, Thai, Tex-Mex pizza joint ?"

Sounds good to me, but Tom doesn't like cheese or tomato, so that pizza would really have to be extra weird.

BTW, in that very crowded Indian Chinese restaurant in Vancouver, Tom and I were the only two customers who were not Indian, but the cooks were all Chinese, but perhaps all from India.

It was very good spicy Cantonese style Chinese food, which usually is NOT at all spicy.

-Don-


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     Posted Nov-1 1:09 AM   
Cpt Bill Edward
 
From  Cpt Bill Edward  Posts 4516  Last Nov-20
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.12 Message 128504.12 replying to 128504.11 128504.11 ]    

Don,

Speaking of the demographics at ethnic type restaurants: there was, and still may be, a Benihana, with which you may be familiar, south of SFO in Burlingame and on the western shore of the S.F. Bay.   Thirty years ago the chefs who prepared and served the meals at the tables were all Japanese.   Last time I was in there,  ten to fifteen years ago, they were all Hispanic.

The Cafe du Monde near Jackson Square in the French Quarter of New Orleans had, from when I can first remember,  a staff of waiters who were all Afro-american.    Last time I was there,  perhaps ten years ago, they were exclusively Oriental.

Bill 

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     Posted Nov-1 1:29 AM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Cpt Bill Edward      [Msg # 128504.13 Message 128504.13 replying to 128504.12 128504.12 ]    

"Speaking of the demographics at ethnic type restaurants: there was, and still may be, a Benihana, with which you may be familiar, south of SFO in Burlingame and on the western shore of the S.F. Bay.   Thirty years ago the chefs who prepared and served the meals at the tables were all Japanese.   Last time I was in there,  ten to fifteen years ago, they were all Hispanic."

Yes, and we did eat there once. Perhaps about 30 years ago, when they were all Japanese. Now, even some Chinese restaurants in this area are using Hispanics. Even more so in the Reno-Carson City area where some Chinese restaurants even have only Hispanic cooks. Seems these days you have to be Hispanic to be hired as a cook anywhere in the west. Even in the American chain restaurants such as Denny's.

OTOH, one of our favorite little Japanese restaurants (just off Skyline in Daly City) has all Chinese cooks. Tom orders in the Japanese restaurant in Cantonese.  I bet most customers in there incorrectly  assume they are Japanese.


-Don- SSF, CA




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     Posted Nov-1 11:14 AM   
Cpt Bill Edward
 
From  Cpt Bill Edward  Posts 4516  Last Nov-20
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.14 Message 128504.14 replying to 128504.13 128504.13 ]    

Don,

""Now, even some Chinese restaurants in this area are using Hispanics.  Even more so in the Reno-Carson city area where some Chinese restaurants even have only Hispanic cooks. Seems these days you have to be HIspanic to be hired as a cook anywhere in the west.""

Does this mean that Hop Sing is no longer in the employee of Ben Cartwright?

Your mention of having been in Edmonton reminded me of being there a few years ago and having had dinner at a rather nice Italian restaurant.   After dinner we decided we'd like some cannolies for desert.   However: they were not on the desert menue.  We were left with a longing for cannolies and the next day, as luck would have it,, I saw a sign down the street from our hotel which said ITALIAN DELI.   If you could find cannolies anywhere it would have to be an Italian deli.  Down the street I go, saliva glands at the ready, and hustle into the deli with full anticipation.   Strange deli; no Chianti bottles or provolone wrapped in twine hanging from the ceilings, no cans of caponata on the shelves, no green,white, and red banners on the wall, not even anything inside the glassed display cases, only a couple of elderly Chinese gentlemen sitting in a booth across from the cash register.

"Cannolies ?" I ask haltingly.

Too which the Chinese gentlemen gave big smiles and replied, "Chocolate cake, Chocolate cake."

 

Bill

 

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     Posted Nov-5 4:45 PM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Cpt Bill Edward      [Msg # 128504.15 Message 128504.15 replying to 128504.14 128504.14 ]    
"Thirty years ago the chefs who prepared and served the meals at the tables were all Japanese."

Are you sure? Tom tells me when we ate there about 30 years ago, all the cooks and servers were Chinese. And he can tell the difference. Even today, the Japanese restaurant we go to the most up on Skyline in Daly City is owned and ran by Chinese. And there's no doubt, because Tom orders in this Japanese restaurant -- in Cantonese!    Tom doesn't speak Japanese.

But if you go to JapanTown of SF, you will most likely find Japanese cooks in the Japanese restaurants. But there might be a few Koreans mixed in.

BTW, IMO, Chinese make better Japanese food than the Japanese. Seriously, I thought the worse Japanese food I ever had was when I was in Japan!

-Don-

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     Posted Nov-5 8:19 PM   
Cpt Bill Edward
 
From  Cpt Bill Edward  Posts 4516  Last Nov-20
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.16 Message 128504.16 replying to 128504.15 128504.15 ]    

Don,

Do you mean the chefs at the hot tables at Benihana who were juggling the knives, chopping up the steak and chicken, and flipping shrimp tails into their pockets were Chinese and not Japanese?     Why not, I suppose, as the last time I was there the people doing that were decidedly Hispanic.

I can sometimes, but not always, tell the difference between Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese.   Koreans seem to share some similarities in appearance with Chinese and Japanese from the North.   They seem to be larger and have sharper facial features such as higher cheekbones than do Chinese of Japanese from the South.     Would Tom agree, or am I seeing things that aren't there?

BTW:   Interesting scene in the motion picture "Hotel Rwanda".   A reporter who has been in Rwanda for some time is in a bar with a newly arrived reporter.   They are flirting with a couple of local girls who are at the bar and the "old hand" is telling the newly arrived reporter that you can tell which is Hutu and which is Tisi but the shape of their faces.     That theme later showed up with some of the rampaging mobs selecting their targets by the appearance of their soon to be victims.

Bill

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     Posted Nov-6 8:03 PM   
Donald A. Richman^Cadre
 
From  Donald A. Richman^Cadre  Posts 367  Last Nov-18
To  Cpt Bill Edward      [Msg # 128504.17 Message 128504.17 replying to 128504.16 128504.16 ]    
"Do you mean the chefs at the hot tables at Benihana who were juggling the knives, chopping up the steak and chicken, and flipping shrimp tails into their pockets were Chinese and not Japanese?"

Yep. And if you didn't mention the place, I too would have still thought they were Japanese.   I was quite surprised when Tom told me they were all Chinese when we went there about 30 years ago.  BTW, The Benihana of Tokyo is still there, but we never went back. No reason, other than you can get better deals on good Japanese food elsewhere around here.  The  "show" of the knife juggling is worth seeing once.


"I can sometimes, but not always, tell the difference between Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese."

Same with me, but it seems Tom can always tell.  

"Koreans seem to share some similarities in appearance with Chinese and Japanese from the North.   They seem to be larger and have sharper facial features such as higher cheekbones than do Chinese of Japanese from the South.     Would Tom agree, or am I seeing things that aren't there?"

He's not even sure how he tells the difference. But he's always been very good at recognizing people. Somehow, he can often recognize people as adults that he has not seen for 40 years, or even since they were kids, who they no longer resemble (at least not at all to me)  and perhaps only saw a few times then.  How, I have no idea and I don't think he knows either. But he has proven it a couple of times.

BTW, now, we sometimes view a table of Asian people in some restaurants around here where Tom has no clue where they are from. But he expects Laos or Cambodia, as he's not real sure what such people look like. 

-Don-
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     Posted Nov-6 10:22 PM   
Cpt Bill Edward
 
From  Cpt Bill Edward  Posts 4516  Last Nov-20
To  Donald A. Richman^Cadre      [Msg # 128504.18 Message 128504.18 replying to 128504.17 128504.17 ]    

Don,

We have some Vietnamese here and quite a few Hmong (Laotian hill people).    Can't always tell, but often can, especially with the women.   The Hmong seem to have rounder faces than do the Viets.   I would venture that there has been more Chinese intermingling with the Vietnamese than with the Hmong, plus with the Hmong they have probably been more isolated as hill people over the years.

Don't know if you recall but the Vietnamese used to picture Caucasians as having large noses though not all of us were Frenchmen.  I can't recall seeing a Vietnamese with a large proboscus.

Bill

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