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Markets & The Economy

Economic growth? WHERE?

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     Posted Oct-29 9:12 AM   
Jon Woolf
 
From  Jon Woolf  Posts 311  Last Nov-20
To  All      [Msg # 17945.1 ]    
It's all over the news today that the economy grew in the 3rd quarter at an annualized rate of 3.5%, and that therefore the recession is over.

What are these people smoking?

We're still losing thousands of jobs every month.  Credit is still tight.  Consumers have cut back on their spending, and are saving or paying off debt rather than building new debt.  Car sales in September were a disaster.  Very few businesses are hiring or expanding, and even fewer are planning on future expansion because they don't know what new lunatic business-killing laws will come out of Congress next.  In a business environment like this, how can the economy possibly have grown?  Was it all due to government spending like Cash for Clunkers? 

-- JSW
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     Posted Oct-29 3:30 PM   
Bob B
 
From  Bob B  Posts 120  Last Nov-5
To  Jon Woolf      [Msg # 17945.2 Message 17945.2 replying to 17945.1 17945.1 ]    

The economic growth was compared to the last quarters.  It still sucks.

Bob

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     Posted Oct-30 12:50 PM   
outaz2
 
From  outaz2  Posts 325  Last Nov-17
To  Bob B      [Msg # 17945.3 Message 17945.3 replying to 17945.2 17945.2 ]    
All the financial heavy weights ( Forbes etc) are very positive about the gain. The 3.5% is a big number, even in good financial times the number has been below this many times.
Yes the $8K home buyers tax credit and the Cash for Clunkers contributed ( most figure these two programs added 1% to the GDP ).
These numbers do not suck. These numbers are impressive by almost any measure.
While no one can predict the GDP in Qtrs going forward, the fact that this is a very positive gain (economic indicator) can not be marginalized.
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     Posted Oct-30 3:38 PM   
DickWeltz
 
From  DickWeltz  Posts 686  Last 10:36 AM
To  outaz2      [Msg # 17945.4 Message 17945.4 replying to 17945.3 17945.3 ]    

These numbers do not suck. These numbers are impressive by almost any measure.
While no one can predict the GDP in Qtrs going forward, the fact that this is a very positive gain (economic indicator) can not be marginalized.

Well, the marketmakers certainly took it as an optimistic sign yesterday, when they were buying up every stock in sight. By today, as the Dow nosedived, I figured at first that they had scared themselves by yesterday's exuberance -- but then I thought that perhaps the plunge is because Pelosi unveiled details of her plans for wrecking the nation's health care and its economy big time.

Appropriately enough, just in time for Halloween.

 

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     Posted Oct-30 3:43 PM   
Bob B
 
From  Bob B  Posts 120  Last Nov-5
To  DickWeltz      [Msg # 17945.5 Message 17945.5 replying to 17945.4 17945.4 ]    

10% unemployment, healthcare along with Cap&Tax getting near passage.  They may have offset 3.5% GDP.

Bob

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     Posted Nov-2 3:50 PM   
outaz2
 
From  outaz2  Posts 325  Last Nov-17
To  DickWeltz      [Msg # 17945.6 Message 17945.6 replying to 17945.4 17945.4 ]    
I know we have both been doing this for a very long time. We both know the market always overreacts. I believe that explains much of what happened Thursday and Friday.
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     Posted Nov-3 7:49 AM   
johnie1940brown
 
From  johnie1940brown  Posts 25  Last Nov-18
To  Jon Woolf      [Msg # 17945.7 Message 17945.7 replying to 17945.1 17945.1 ]    
Maybe one should take what the Feds say with a grain of salt!

Drop the grain in a glass of water and you can't find the grain!

The Feds and their reports make the Nazis of WWII to look like a real load of bull tailings! 
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     Posted Nov-4 11:56 AM   
outaz2
 
From  outaz2  Posts 325  Last Nov-17
To  johnie1940brown      [Msg # 17945.8 Message 17945.8 replying to 17945.7 17945.7 ]    (Unread)
Your attempt to tie the Feds to the Nazis it stomach turning. The only "bull tailings" here is your post.
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