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Thanksgiving Wine: What Goes With Turkey

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     Posted Nov-18 10:57 AM   
Bob Cohen
 
From  Bob Cohen  Posts 141  Last 8:39 AM
To  All      [Msg # 159209.1 ]    

Building on a note posted last year by Robin Garr, I've been thinking about one of my favorite conundrums, enjoying wine with turkey, the traditional Thanksgiving main course.

Robin gives a concise summation:

 DRINK WHAT YOU LIKE. Turkey is a tough match, because it offers both white meat (often bland and sometimes dry) and dark meat (rich, earthy and gamey, distinctly my preference) on the same bird, and it's hard to find a single wine to match them both. Simply set up something extra-special to celebrate the holiday. Don't fret about perfection in wine-and-food pairing for this feast; just enjoy the holiday with an exceptional wine for its own sake.

 NOT EITHER-OR BUT BOTH-AND. It's a celebratory feast! Throw caution to the winds and open both a red and a white, offering each guest the option to pick the wine of preference ... or take two glasses and enjoy a little of each.

 FOLLOW THE CRANBERRY SAUCE RULE. If you really want to try for a complementary pairing, think about cranberry sauce, the traditional condiment with turkey, and seek wines that show a similar flavor profile: fruity, tart but smooth. This leads us to Riesling, Gewurztraminer or Chenin Blanc for the white; Pinot Noir or Beaujolais for the red. In fact, you might consider the seasonal Beaujolais Nouveau. Although some wine "geeks" dismiss it as too simple and frivolous, in many ways Beaujolais Nouveau is ideal for holiday feasts. It's seasonal, it's fresh, and it's fruity, and it will quaff well enough with light and dark meat, and maybe the dressing and sweet potatoes, too.

 CELEBRATE YOUR FAMILY HERITAGE. Some wine enthusiasts feel that Thanksgiving - tracing its inspiration back to the Pilgrims' first harvest feast - should be celebrated with an American wine. Maybe. I don't find most modern Zinfandels with their high alcohol and blockbuster fruit a great match with turkey, though. The American native grape Norton is an interesting possibility, but rare and hard to find. And Concord and its native wild-grape cousins? Fahgeddit. I suggest, rather, looking back to the Old Country and celebrating this American holiday with a salute to our family roots. If you're a "Heinz 57 Varieties" American like me, with English, Germans, Italians and French cluttering up my family tree, this opens up a wide variety of choices. 

To what Robin wrote, I'd add that there are plenty of American-produced wines that can be enjoyed with turkey and its traditional accompaniments, even if the grape varieties originated in Europe.  Being in New York State, I have easy access to the delightful wines of the Finger Lakes, notably whites such as Riesling and Gewurtztraminer   These wines are also produced in California and the Pacific Northwest, as well as other regions of the U.S.

Perhaps the best advice is, as Robin suggests, buy good wines that you enjoy.  Don't worry about a perfect matchup with wine and food.  Good wine can still complement the food even if it is not a traditional perfect pairing.


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Bob

Edited Nov-23   by  JudyC
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     Posted Nov-18 4:06 PM   
Charles C
 
From  Charles C  Posts 3867  Last Jan-4
To  Bob Cohen      [Msg # 159209.2 Message 159209.2 replying to 159209.1 159209.1 ]    
I couldn't agree more, Bob.   At our family gathering at both Thanksgiving and Christmas several wines are available - both red, white and even pink - for those with different tastes.  I happen to like a White Zinfandel as a quaffing wine before dinner but switch to a Beaujolais when I sit down to eat.
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     Posted Nov-18 4:27 PM   
JudyC
 
From  JudyC  Posts 8336  Last 8:20 AM
To  Bob Cohen      [Msg # 159209.3 Message 159209.3 replying to 159209.1 159209.1 ]    
We normally drink a Gewurtz but Robbin recommended this wine to me last Thanksgiving. I happened to have 2 bottles of it so we served it to our guests. It was a big hit.  I think I'll serve it again this year:

Michele Chiarlo 2006 "Le Orme" Barbera d'Asti ($10.99)

Very dark reddish-purple, with a clear garnet edge. Red-berry fruit, something like cranberries (only half-joking, perhaps a candidate for the Thanksgiving table), backed by subtle earthy, woody notes that stay well beneath the fruit. Tart cranberry flavors well shaped by zippy acidity, a good food wine with a variety of meat and poultry courses. U.S. importer: Kobrand Corp., NYC. (Nov. 24, 2008)



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     Posted Nov-18 4:32 PM   
Bob Cohen
 
From  Bob Cohen  Posts 141  Last 8:39 AM
To  JudyC      [Msg # 159209.4 Message 159209.4 replying to 159209.3 159209.3 ]    
Judy,

It appears that the 2006 vintage of that wine is still readily available.  At that price, if you're looking for a medium-bodied red, it would be hard to beat.
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Bob
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     Posted Nov-18 4:36 PM   
Bob Cohen
 
From  Bob Cohen  Posts 141  Last 8:39 AM
To  Charles C      [Msg # 159209.5 Message 159209.5 replying to 159209.2 159209.2 ]    
Charles,

I've long been a fan of regular Beaujolais, ideally one of the "Cru" Beaujolais such as Morgon, Fleury, etc.  Those wines are delightful, very food-friendly, and are vastly different from Beaujolais Noveau, which in my humble opinion shouldn't even bear the name Beaujolais (though I know it legally can and will).
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Bob
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     Posted Nov-18 4:42 PM   
JudyC
 
From  JudyC  Posts 8336  Last 8:20 AM
To  Bob Cohen      [Msg # 159209.6 Message 159209.6 replying to 159209.4 159209.4 ]    
I happened to pick up a bottle this week and all they had was the 2005.  $12.99.


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     Posted Nov-18 4:45 PM   
Charles C
 
From  Charles C  Posts 3867  Last Jan-4
To  Bob Cohen      [Msg # 159209.7 Message 159209.7 replying to 159209.5 159209.5 ]    
I'm in agreement about the Nouveau, Bob.  I tried it once and didn't like it all that much.  It still seems to be somewhat big around here because the LCBO posts signs when they have it in stock and there seem to be people who buy it - although not in the line-ups I once remember.
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     Posted Nov-20 10:17 AM   
digicook
 
From  digicook  Posts 1951  Last Feb-5
To  Charles C      [Msg # 159209.8 Message 159209.8 replying to 159209.2 159209.2 ]    
this isn't exactly on subject, but a friend shared that her son-in-law prepares their Christmas turkey by slathering it first with butter, then tamping on brown sugar.

The cavity contains onions and a bottle of white wine, (which of course drizzles out).

She says the gravy is outstanding...and I imagine it is!

Isabel
http://www.pbase.com/isabel95
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#9 of 17

     Posted Nov-20 12:54 PM   
ShirleyD
 
From  ShirleyD  Posts 10296  Last Jan-26
To  digicook      [Msg # 159209.9 Message 159209.9 replying to 159209.8 159209.8 ]    
I mix  1/2 melted butter and 1/2 white wine. I inject this into the turkey and also use the mixture to baste the turkey. And yes, it does make a good gravy.
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     Posted Nov-20 1:06 PM   
digicook
 
From  digicook  Posts 1951  Last Feb-5
To  ShirleyD      [Msg # 159209.10 Message 159209.10 replying to 159209.9 159209.9 ]    
I never thought of injecting the turkey.  I do have one of those syringes somewhere!

Isabel
http://www.pbase.com/isabel95
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#11 of 17

     Posted Nov-20 1:53 PM   
Bob Cohen
 
From  Bob Cohen  Posts 141  Last 8:39 AM
To  digicook      [Msg # 159209.11 Message 159209.11 replying to 159209.8 159209.8 ]    (Unread)
>> The cavity contains onions and a bottle of white wine, (which of course drizzles out). <<

I hope they pour the wine out of the bottle first. <g>

Seriously, good white wine is quite flavorful and could add nicely to the flavor of the gravy.  After cooking there's not likely to be much if any alcohol left.  You'd want to use a fairly good wine - cheaping out with something like this (like the "cooking wine" I see in supermarkets - yecch) isn't a good idea.
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Bob
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     Posted Nov-20 2:25 PM   
ShirleyD
 
From  ShirleyD  Posts 10296  Last Jan-26
To  digicook      [Msg # 159209.12 Message 159209.12 replying to 159209.10 159209.10 ]    (Unread)
I buy a plain turkey without the additives, no Butterballs. I've been doing it for so many years, I've forgotten where I heard about it.
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     Posted Nov-20 3:46 PM   
Charles C
 
From  Charles C  Posts 3867  Last Jan-4
To  ShirleyD      [Msg # 159209.13 Message 159209.13 replying to 159209.9 159209.9 ]    
I still have a couple of hypodermics!  There was a fad when I was in my early twenties of injecting watermelons with Creme de Menthe.  My first try was with the green variety.  <G, D & R>
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     Posted Nov-20 9:44 PM   
Susie
 
From  Susie  Posts 13201  Last 2:17 PM
To  ShirleyD      [Msg # 159209.14 Message 159209.14 replying to 159209.9 159209.9 ]    
Hmm - I bet that would work well with a chicken as well.
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     Posted Nov-20 10:15 PM   
JudyG/Cooks
 
From  JudyG/Cooks  Posts 4938  Last Feb-2
To  ShirleyD      [Msg # 159209.15 Message 159209.15 replying to 159209.9 159209.9 ]    
Ive never injected a turkey- but I do rub butter (this year truffled butter) under the skin of the breast and thighs if I can.
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     Posted Nov-20 10:22 PM   
JudyG/Cooks
 
From  JudyG/Cooks  Posts 4938  Last Feb-2
To  ShirleyD      [Msg # 159209.16 Message 159209.16 replying to 159209.12 159209.12 ]    
Me too. Ive never bought a frozen one and always order a plain one from my butcher
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     Posted Nov-20 11:26 PM   
ShirleyD
 
From  ShirleyD  Posts 10296  Last Jan-26
To  JudyG/Cooks      [Msg # 159209.17 Message 159209.17 replying to 159209.15 159209.15 ]    
I've been doing it too many years to remember when I first did it.
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