This is the beginning of a new thread. I am going to be posting a series of articles and instances where the GOP has crossed the line into delusion. Where they are getting their information, besides Rush and Fox News, is beyond me. But this stuff is beyond belief. I know that you will feel free to add your two cents, or more, and comment. Also, add other instances where I fail to find it.

Toby

This is from The House Minority Leader’s office, and is another example of his being fact deprived.

>>Just like the original 2,032-page, government-run health care plan from Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) massive, 2,074-page bill would levy a new “abortion premium” fee on Americans in the government-run plan.

What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run health plan. It’s right there beginning on line 11, page 122, section 1303, under “Actuarial Value of Optional Service Coverage.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account – and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.<<<<
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/11/here_it_comes_1.php?ref=fpblg

It is a great day for delusions. This time our delusional GOP Congress Critter is the always interesting Virginia Foxx, and her latest claim is that the GOP passed Civil Rights Legislation with almost no help from the Democrats. Where do they get this stuff?

>>Foxx: Republicans ‘Passed Civil Rights Bills Back In The 60s Without Very Much Help’ From Democrats
During a debate on the House floor today over designating 21 miles of the Molalla River as “wild and scenic,” Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC), who opposes the legislation, tried to claim a progressive environmental record for her party. “Actually, the GOP has been the leader in starting good environmental programs in this country,” said Foxx.<<

http://thinkprogress.org/

The website goes on as she is challenged in this, and they have video.

Here is Friday GOP Delusions and out and out lies:

Fear Factor: The Four Ways Republicans Say Obama Will Kill You Now
Evan McMorris-Santoro | November 20, 2009, 11:45AM
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It's been a week since Attorney General Eric Holder announced that five terror suspects will be transferred from Guantanamo Bay to New York City to face trial. There are still a lot of questions to be answered about logistics, and it will likely be months before the first suspect sets foot in a federal courtroom.

Republicans have already told us what's going to happen, though: If you let President Obama have his way, you will die.

The GOP has returned to a familiar line on Obama and national security in the days since Holder's announcement. It's time to be afraid again, they say, hearkening back to the days of duct tape and Orange alerts even some Republicans thought they left behind on Election Day 2008.

So grab an assault rifle and keep the phone number for Operation TIPS close -- here are the four ways Republicans say Obama is putting your life at risk.

4. Surrendering In The War On Terror

According to the GOP, Obama has abandoned the war on terror to appease his left-wing friends. On a conference call yesterday, Rudy Giuliani said he welcomed the return of the word "war" into the administration lexicon. Giuliani said that before Holder used the word the other day, he was afraid that Obama had forgotten about all that 9/11 stuff Giuliani made sure was a part of the GOP primary for president last year.

"I was under the impression that the Obama administration thought this was just an unfortunate situation we're dealing with," he said.

Rudy's not the only one. Many Republicans have claimed recently that Obama has returned the government to a "pre-9/11 mentality" where things like legal rights take precedence over things like unchecked wiretapping ability. At a press conference the other day, Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) suggested that it was this mentality literally led to the deaths of 13 American soldiers in Texas. Hoekstra said there were "tools" that George W. Bush and the Republicans gave the intelligence community that Obama and Democrats have since taken away. He said that those tools may have prevented the killings in Texas, and he wants to hold hearings to investigate before the Democrats can take away more tools by letting provisions in the Patriot Act expire at the end of this year.

http://thinkprogress.org/

The Saturday Stupidity and Delusion of the GOP. Lemar Alexander:

>>Sen. Lamar Alexander Repeatedly Calls Medicaid A ‘Medical Ghetto’
Today on the Senate floor, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) railed against Medicaid, the health insurance program funded by both the federal and state governments for low-income Americans, by calling it a “medical ghetto” and blasting Democrats for proposing to expand the program:

– “We’ve heard eloquent statements about how moving 15 million low-income Americans into a program called Medicaid, which is a medical ghetto, is not health care reform.”

– “The governor of Tennessee, who is a Democratic governor, has estimated that the cost to our state of this bill — of moving 15 million Americans into this medical ghetto — is about $800 million over five years.”

– “Or arrogant in its dumping of 15 million low-income Americans into a medical ghetto called Medicaid that none of us, or any of our families, would ever want to be a part of for our health care.”<<

How stupid can you get?

We are just going to have to keep pointing out their delusions so that people don’t start thinking that these are principles backed by facts. These are hate driven, and we have to call them bigots when they act like it.

(The assumption behind Limbaugh's argument - as with many arguments about polls - is that the published poll results have an effect of their own, beyond the presidents underlying popularity. For example, maybe some senator would vote for the health care bill if he read that Obama's approval rating was 51% but would vote no if he read that Obama only had 41% approval. This might very well be true - it makes sense - i just don't really know.)

Rush should know, its the very same tactic the right has been using now for years. Over the past 8 months you have to understand that the right wing biased media has been doing exactly what Limpnut has accused Gallup. All thru the summer they made up some of the most ridiculas poll stats claiming that the majority of Americans are against health care reform. Polls that even went so far as to claim that Obama's popularity had fallen below 40%, and more. Rasmussen, Fox, Zogby and others are guilty of that very practice that Rush Limpnut is accussing Gallup of. Thats the main reason why I trust Gallup for more accurate unbiased polling.  

Rush is just letting a cat out of the bag concerning a right wing dirty psychological strategy thats allready been in practice for years. I believe the whole bombardment over the past 10 months with the misinformation campaigns by the right is targeted at the independent voters. To sway their thinking and votes towards the Republicans. Exactly how Limpnut explained it's phsychology on the example in your post of the senator voting for health care reform, you can understand how it could influence public thinking the same way towards independents to sway there support for the Republicans. Creating the illusion that the majority of Americans support the GOP over the Democrats, (especially in exagerating the support numbers of the Tea Party Organization).

                                                                                                                                                                  They  were really expecting a real big drop in support for president Obama and the Democrats by now, and an even bigger drop in support for the health care bill.  I quess it's not  working as well as they want it to. More typical brain dead Rush Limpnut, chronic foot -n- mouth disease. The fungus around his mouth is just getting worse with age. But the idea now to accuse Gallup of biased polling, and not the other polling companies, well, thats just typical right wing stupidity and hypocracy. Even if Gallup did up the sampling of African Americans in the poll, it wouldn't make a difference in the statistics, it still means they are supporting Obama. Somewhere thru the ages this fairy tale develpoed that all African Americans vote Democrat, not true. Right now its the independents that count, even African American independents.

For Limpnut to turn this into a question of racial differences tells you how really racist the right wing can really be, especially Rush. Rush and the right are just blowing smelly air right out of their behinds.

(Only problem they are running into is that people have tuned them out.)

Thats true to some extent. Gallup did a poll back in September concerning how these lies by the right actually do take root in the minds of some people, and does sway their thinking. Thats why its important to point them out as lies, and misinformation. The death panels issue was a prime example. The socialist agenda is another. The GOP and the right will continue this garbage as long as it does influence the thinking of some. I believe it is going to be a long winter of right wing BS, just like this past summer.  

I don't think the Democrat supporters or should (I say the left is doing enough to shout down these lies). A bigger voice is imperative. More need to get involved in bringing down these lies so they don't actually take root in the minds of some Americans, especially the independent voters out there.  

Now they claim that Health Insurance Bill will take your guns!!! I kid you not.

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EVEN OUR GUNS?
You knew health care reform has death panels, rationing, no cancer tests and you have to get most medical exams at the DMV. But now it turns out it will also take away your guns.

--Josh Marshall<<

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

What the GOP has been so successfully doing is scaring the pants off people. They are making Barack out to being something weird, alien, and unAmerican. We will see how many people they convince. It is going to be interesting and scary. We can not let these fear mongers win.

New GOP Delusional thinking. Remember that the GOP has been screaming and screaming that everything has to be on the Senate website for at least 72 hours before being considered, although they never did so when they were in control. Well, it was put up or shut up time in the Senate today with Senator Reid and Senator Lincoln suggesting unanimous consent to put all amendments to the Health Insurance Reform on the web, only one guess is possible, yes the GOP screamed no.

>> Obstructionism Trumps Transparency
David Kurtz | November 30, 2009, 5:38PM
Remember all the Republican demands that Democrats' health care reform bills be posted online for at least 72 hours before a vote for everyone to read?

Well, forget about that. Republicans shot down an effort today by Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) to post proposed amendments to the health care reform bill online for before a vote. That would effect how many amendments the GOP could offer in hopes of gumming up the works, so they refused to go along.<<

http://thinkprogress.org/