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Christian Morals

Vatican Praises Harry Potter?

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     Posted Jul-15 12:29 AM   
Noelle
 
From  Noelle  Posts 452  Last Nov-19
To  All      [Msg # 119556.1 ]    
Don't know what's up with this...I have not seen this latest movie, in fact I've seen very little in most of the Harry Potter films because the images and message was so filled with children practicing witchcraft.

Here's the article:

VATICAN CITY (July 14) - The Vatican lauded the latest Harry Potter film, saying "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" made the age-old debate over good vs. evil crystal clear.
The Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano even gave two thumbs up to the film's treatment of adolescent love, saying Monday it achieved the "correct balance" and made the stars more credible to the general audience.
http://news.aol.com/article/vatican-praises-harry-potter/569290




Noelle


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     Posted Jul-15 8:14 AM   
dotcira
 
From  dotcira  Posts 1907  Last 6:19 PM
To  Noelle      [Msg # 119556.2 Message 119556.2 replying to 119556.1 119556.1 ]    

Noelle,

I don't agree at all with the opinion of those who stated that they were approving of Harry Potter.  What is curious is the headline about "The Vatican lauded......", which makes it sound like the Pope approved.

This past weekend I attended a very powerful retreat given by a priest that definitely did not have any praise for Harry Potter and the insidious way that it can lead young minds astray.

In fact, this priest was in demand for performing deliverances for all kinds of wrong activity that people get themselves involved in.  His sharings was a powerful witness to the damage that such involvements do to Christianity, and how it affects the individuals involved.

Peace,

Dot

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     Posted Jul-15 9:42 AM   
Judith
 
From  Judith  Posts 3716  Last Nov-19
To  Noelle      [Msg # 119556.3 Message 119556.3 replying to 119556.1 119556.1 ]    

"Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince"

 

That doesn't even make sense!

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     Posted Jul-15 2:20 PM   
Richard W.
 
From  Richard W.  Posts 9502  Last 2:34 PM
To  Noelle      [Msg # 119556.4 Message 119556.4 replying to 119556.1 119556.1 ]    
Noelle,

<<< Don't know what's up with this...I have not seen this latest movie, in fact I've seen very little in most of the Harry Potter films because the images and message was so filled with children practicing witchcraft.

<<< Here's the article:
VATICAN CITY (July 14) - The Vatican lauded the latest Harry Potter film, saying "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" made the age-old debate over good vs. evil crystal clear. The Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano even gave two thumbs up to the film's treatment of adolescent love, saying Monday it achieved the "correct balance" and made the stars more credible to the general audience.
http://news.aol.com/article/vatican-praises-harry-potter/569290

L'Osservatore Romano must have hired a goofy editor recently as there are several stories coming out of that paper recently that are rather whacked. People are already looking into the recent string of 'off message' comments and editorials in this paper.

The endorsement of Potter isn't anything official from the Catholic Church. And it isn't a full endorsement either, at least not in this version (revision?) from
L'Osservatore Romano. See link: http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=16554

I'm not totally against portrails of magic. Nor am I favorable to the 'Potter' series. I think C.S. Lewis did well with the portrail of magic, and Tolkein did even better. I don't see that Rawlings portrayed it all that well as a plot device. I see some glamorizing of magic in a way that Lewis and Tolkein would never have done. Had I done the review of the latest 'Potter' movie, my review would be at least one thumb down. The orientation of the other thumb would depend on the specifics of the story, and how it is told; things I know nothing about.


Richard W.
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     Posted Jul-15 9:07 PM   
Noelle
 
From  Noelle  Posts 452  Last Nov-19
To  dotcira      [Msg # 119556.5 Message 119556.5 replying to 119556.2 119556.2 ]    (Unread)

D...>>>I don't agree at all with the opinion of those who stated that they were approving of Harry Potter.  What is curious is the headline about "The Vatican lauded......", which makes it sound like the Pope approved.

This past weekend I attended a very powerful retreat given by a priest that definitely did not have any praise for Harry Potter and the insidious way that it can lead young minds astray.

In fact, this priest was in demand for performing deliverances for all kinds of wrong activity that people get themselves involved in.  His sharings was a powerful witness to the damage that such involvements do to Christianity, and how it affects the individuals involved.<<

Dot...

I posted this because I didn't know what to think of it. I was quite sure that most Catholics would not approve of movies with a story line that has children attending a school to learn witchcraft, although I don't know what this recent Harry Potter film involves.

Yes, involvement in the occult can be dangerous - many people unaware do things to open doors in their own lives, never knowing just how costly it will be for them later on.

Yes, imo, the Harry Potter story line (that of children being groomed to perform witchcraft) can lead a young mind astray to practice what the Lord says is an abomination in Deuteronomy.


Noelle
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     Posted Jul-15 9:19 PM   
Noelle
 
From  Noelle  Posts 452  Last Nov-19
To  Richard W.      [Msg # 119556.6 Message 119556.6 replying to 119556.4 119556.4 ]    
R...>>I'm not totally against portrails of magic. Nor am I favorable to the 'Potter' series. I think C.S. Lewis did well with the portrail of magic, and Tolkein did even better. I don't see that Rawlings portrayed it all that well as a plot device. I see some glamorizing of magic in a way that Lewis and Tolkein would never have done. Had I done the review of the latest 'Potter' movie, my review would be at least one thumb down. The orientation of the other thumb would depend on the specifics of the story, and how it is told; things I know nothing about.<<

Richard...

I haven't seen it, so I have no idea what it is about. As far as C.S. Lewis, he was leagues away from anything Rawlings portrays. Children in C.S. Lewis novels are not learning how to perform witchcraft, but they are on a big fantasy adventure.
 
Now where Tolkien is concerned - my all time favorite is The Hobbit, which is again very different from what Rawlings puts out.
When they came out with the movie, "Lord of the Rings" I watched 5 minutes of it and found the graphics very disturbing, would not allow my daughter to watch it and never have viewed it since.


Noelle
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     Posted Jul-22 3:35 PM   
lrschrs
 
From  lrschrs  Posts 12106  Last 11:19 AM
To  Richard W.      [Msg # 119556.7 Message 119556.7 replying to 119556.4 119556.4 ]    

I share your reservations about the Potter material. While it does nto 'teach' occultic magick as such, it is a literary fantasy world after all, it does not do enough to show the dnagers of occultic thinking in kids nor is it free from all actual occultic language and references hidden in the text.

All literature has a base conflict of 'good' with 'evil', that is true, but how one defiens good and evil matter more than just that there is the conflict or that the 'good' wins. For me the potter books and films are just not good enough to be read or viewed, not evil as such, but not much good either. Sure there are some fun bits, cleaver and even affirming of good thigns like friendship and courage, but there is also a lack of moral seriosuness in the dismissla of bad behavior and the use of magick by supposed 'good' characters pmagick here being occultic minipulative magic, as opposed to stagecraft or just natural abilities yet to be explained, magic].

So I think praising this stuff is too much and less than perceptive, as is some of the negaitve overblown damning of it.

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     Posted Jul-22 11:52 PM   
Richard W.
 
From  Richard W.  Posts 9502  Last 2:34 PM
To  lrschrs      [Msg # 119556.8 Message 119556.8 replying to 119556.7 119556.7 ]    
Chris,

<<< So I think praising this stuff is too much and less than perceptive, as is some of the negaitve overblown damning of it.

Let me call it more or less adequate fiction with reservations about the use of the occult. Damning with faint praise. I did go to see the movie and was neither angry with it nor enthralled with it.

Richard W.
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