Abortion vs Overpopulation
Which is the greater evil: abortion or overpopulation? Which poses the greatest threat to the future of human beings (and other species with which humankind shares the Earth)?
American Artist John Pitre has offered one vision of what the future holds in store for the inhabitants of this planet. You can see his rendering by clicking on Overpopulation.
Enlarge the image in Overpopulation to get a view of what it's composed....
Is his vision of the future one which is likely too soon to be upon us?
Should abortion be viewed as just another means of trying to stem the tide of overpopulation on this planet?
What do _you_ think?
Map of countries according to their population density, courtesy Wikipedia. (Click to enlarge map.)
Countries mapped by fertility rate, courtesy Wikipedia (click map to enlarge it):
Human population growth rate in percent, with the variables of births, deaths, immigration, and emigration, as listed on CIA factbook (2006 estimate), courtesy Wikipedia. (Click map to enlarge.)
John Linendoll>>Should abortion be viewed as just another means of trying to stem the tide of overpopulation on this planet?
What do _you_ think?<<
It will seem from population trends in Europe and Japan that education, improved standard of living leads to lower birth rates. If that is the case I see no reason for drastic methods like abortion as a means for population control.
Juin
>Which is the greater evil: abortion or overpopulation? Which poses the greatest threat to the future of human beings (and other species with which humankind shares the Earth)?<
The obvious answer is that over population is a clear and present danger to the human race, and abortion is a clear and present danger to those trying to fill pews. Maybe not politically (or religiously) correct, but that's what it boils down to.
When you convince people that they can't use contraceptives or god will be mad at them, and then promote huge families, and then beg for money to feed all the hungry mouths that you have created, and then tell them that they will all go to hell if they don't (a) have huge families, and (b) support mother church, then you have become a successful organized religion. Hoorah!
If that is the case I see no reason for drastic methods like abortion as a means for population control.
Thanks for your kind reply, Juin.
But are there any indications that population control is working sufficiently to prevent continued explosive growth and overutilization of this planet's limited resources?
Very best wishes,
- John
>>Should abortion be viewed as just another means of trying to stem the tide of overpopulation on this planet?<<
I think people should use some common sense when choosing how many kids they'll have. Some could care less of what overpopulation does to the planet. They keep on having them whether they can afford them or not.I agree somewhat with putting a limit on how many kids parents are allowed to have. That would elimate some of the needs for an abortion.
geric>>Religion has caused so many of history's problems thet I ignore it almost completely. Does God want to see so many starving people? I think not. Birth control is a MUST by whatever means possible. Most wars were caused by religion also. Maybe wars were started partly to thin out the populations? Governments in overpopulated countries should long ago have made their people take some kind of birth control pill. These poor people just keeep making babies non stop, some making as many as 15 or more. Religion here is not to be paid attention to in this matter. Loose morals in today's kids doesen't help either. We have girls as young as 11 getting pregnant in fact. The only answer is birth control and damn religion, if there is such a thing. I believe in 1 supreme being and nothing else. Priests, ministers, rabiis, and so forth, what do they care about the hundreds of millions of babies starving to death? They're not the ones who see any of this. They're mostly sitting in a safe place living off the money they keep begging us for. A good God knows this of course so you figure it out. I'm sure I'm not going to "hell" just because my wife and I decided to limit our kids to two. (2). Besides, no one really knows if there really is a God. We believe or we don't believe. Take your pick.<<
You have mostly suggested 'birth control'. I believe the recommendation is more drastic than just 'birth control'; it calls for abortion as a means of population control. Do you recommend abortion as a means of population control?
Hi john: Yes there is plenty of evidence to support Juin's post. How ever there is no evidence to support that forceing people to have abortions will stop population boom. Humans are crafty. Education and a high standard of living will be our only good sollution. Anything less will cause more death to humans and damage too the earth. Maybe that is what some people want. More death. Not me. I want peace and a better standard of living for me and all. Power to the peaceful people!!! RIO in NC
realrio>>Wow Juin: You have hit the nail on the head. Education and a good standard of living is key to population control. If we force people to have abortions and/or have a 1 child limit then you can no longer say we live in America and the constitution is just what GW says it is,"just a god dam pice of paper". GW quote from the GOP convention 04. Thank you for your common sense and articularity. RIO in NC<<
Thanks Rio. Abortion on command and by force of law is the most heinous instrument that can be place in the hands of a governement, or appropriated by a government.
That will reduce the Constitution to the level of Nazi Germany where the government considered it a duty to purify the race by eliminating the disabled and mentally impaired.
Lulu
"Anti-Choice = Pro female slavery"
It will seem from population trends in Europe and Japan that education, improved standard of living leads to lower birth rates. If that is the case I see no reason for drastic methods like abortion as a means for population control
I wonder just how well that philosophy would hold up in China for instance... or India... ? There is in fact a limit to the size a population can be maintained by available resources. Not just food but water are key issues.
