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#1 of 18

     Posted Oct-31 12:58 PM   
groucho
 
From  groucho  Posts 1605  Last Nov-20
To  All      [Msg # 164711.1 ]    

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=634&name=Scanner-Document-Scanners

I've heard good things about the Fijuitsu ScanSnap series over the years, S1500 type not the itsy bitsy ones, and they've certainly made this type of scanner (small, autofeed, duplex, convert to full PDF with full Acrobat bundled) longer than anyone else.

Anyone heard pros and cons about them versus all the new competition? I've got a file cabinet that needs to be emptied this week, and a duplex scanner is going to be "in the mail" Monday to do it.


Edited Oct-31   by  groucho
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     Posted Oct-31 2:40 PM   
Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET
 
From  Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET  Posts 546  Last 12:47 PM
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.2 Message 164711.2 replying to 164711.1 164711.1 ]    
The very first scanner I ever bought, in the UK, was  Fujitsu and built like a Rolls Royce. I haven't had one since but they seem to have a good reputation in the documentation field.

  Hugh

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#3 of 18

     Posted Oct-31 8:15 PM   
groucho
 
From  groucho  Posts 1605  Last Nov-20
To  Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET      [Msg # 164711.3 Message 164711.3 replying to 164711.2 164711.2 ]    

Thanks, Hugh. I'd seen notes mentioning the way some competitors only use one roller, which induces skew. And I think--not sure--that the similar $10,000 SCSI scanner I'd spec'd for an OCR project some ten years ago was also a Fujitsu built quite robustly.

I took the plunge and ordered one. Among other things, I want the Acro9 that's bundled with this one. I haven't had a full version of Acro in too long, and putzing around with the Reader's limits is just ng for the way I want to organize these files.

Now, I'd be tickled pink if the full Acro woul only play nice here in Vista, i.e. open quickly and stop trying to preload itself and check online for updates. (Had to put on the ghillie suit and play nasty to really get the Reader to just "shut up and play nice".)

 

Built like a Rolls Royce...you mean, a German reinvention of a bankrupt British sales firm? (Frightening the way the world has changed, isn't it?)

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     Posted Oct-31 8:52 PM   
Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET
 
From  Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET  Posts 546  Last 12:47 PM
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.4 Message 164711.4 replying to 164711.3 164711.3 ]    
If you want quick use WIN 7 not VISTA ....

  Hugh

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     Posted Oct-31 9:23 PM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1973  Last Nov-20
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.5 Message 164711.5 replying to 164711.3 164711.3 ]    

PMJI:

Acro9 is not all that bad in Vista - I installed it for a client last week on his Vista Laptop...

p.s.  You can turn Updates OFF in Tools | Preferences | General...

 


Edited Oct-31   by  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
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     Posted Nov-1 2:29 PM   
groucho
 
From  groucho  Posts 1605  Last Nov-20
To  Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET      [Msg # 164711.6 Message 164711.6 replying to 164711.4 164711.4 ]    

No Win7 here yet. I use Ultimate, so the upgrade is "Skin 'em, Bob!" priced. And when I do the upgrade, I'll let some other pioneers take the first 90 days of damage, then I'll plan for a major change from 32 to 64 bit, or at least, check over all the old odds and ends to see if I can do that without too much bloodshed and angst.

Heck, an HP rep just told me last month that i couldn't use a new duplex printer for duplex copying or faxing, but yesterday I stumbled across menu options for duplex SCANNING...which means it can do the rest, if I use the option of "scan, then..." instead of pressing one button. I'm sure that MS will continue the CrackerJack tradition of placing cheap surprises inside every box, much as I look forward to "Vista-point-one." <G>

I've had hands on it, and it is nice, but no compelling rush here, given how MS hasn't really made it a simple cheap upgrade for me.

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#7 of 18

     Posted Nov-1 2:34 PM   
Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET
 
From  Hugh Wyn Griffith WUGNET  Posts 546  Last 12:47 PM
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.7 Message 164711.7 replying to 164711.6 164711.6 ]    
You can do a clean install regrdless of versions and move across just the stuff you want to keep -- do the housekeeping you never got round to ....

  Hugh

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     Posted Nov-1 3:25 PM   
Conrad K
 
From  Conrad K  Posts 255  Last Nov-15
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.8 Message 164711.8 replying to 164711.3 164711.3 ]    

>> and stop trying to preload itself  <<

Groucho..  In my experience, the trick is that after installation of Reader, you need to go into each user account, open Reader, and change its preferences to not update automatically.  If any one account is still set to update automatically, it will override all the other user account settings.  Then after you change all the user accounts to not auto-update, then you go into your own master account and disable the Reader scheduler in MSCONFIG.   That takes care of it once and for all until the next time you update it...  connie


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#9 of 18

     Posted Nov-1 6:44 PM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1973  Last Nov-20
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.9 Message 164711.9 replying to 164711.6 164711.6 ]    

PMJI:

If you are not going to be using Bitlocker, Professional will do everything you are doing now, at a lower price than Ultimate...

FWIW...

 

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#10 of 18

     Posted Nov-1 10:42 PM   
groucho
 
From  groucho  Posts 1605  Last Nov-20
To  Conrad K      [Msg # 164711.10 Message 164711.10 replying to 164711.8 164711.8 ]    

"  If any one account is still set to update automatically, it will override all the other user account settings. "

 VERY INTERESTING. Maybe that's part of the problem, although in theory, if a user account is passive (isn't being used and hasn't been used) it shouldn't be "reaching out" at any time at all.

MSCONFIG, by the way, didn't slow it down at all. The 'Brat ignored MSCONFIG.

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#11 of 18

     Posted Nov-1 10:48 PM   
groucho
 
From  groucho  Posts 1605  Last Nov-20
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164711.11 Message 164711.11 replying to 164711.9 164711.9 ]    

Please, feel free to jump.

I'm not sure that I would be allowed to downgrade to Professional from Ultimate, but Bitlocker is one reason I sprung for Ultimate. I've been experimenting very cautiously with it, because I want to use it but don't want to see an accident locking me out of my own backups or recovery options. After I upgraded the internal hard drive, I re-bricked the old one and enabled Bitlocker on it, then put it in the option bay and restarted.

And while Disk Mangler showed it as a bitlocked drive...The Vista OS itself just said "Drive? What drive? There's no drive there, I see nothing."

I like that. I just still have some hesitation about the reliability, and the TPM chip on the motherboard. Apparently Vista certification calls for the TPM chip to continue working after suspend/wake transitions, and Lenono has a firmware error that generates errors from the TPM chip after suspend/wakes. When I get some time (the drive has to be physically reinstalled, mounted, screwed, not just swapped) to explore that further, I will.

But yes, I do want Bitlocker, or similar strong security. And I know there's TrueCrypt, but that's something else again to look into.

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#12 of 18

     Posted Nov-1 11:45 PM   
Conrad K
 
From  Conrad K  Posts 255  Last Nov-15
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.12 Message 164711.12 replying to 164711.10 164711.10 ]    

>> Maybe that's part of the problem, although in theory, if a user account is passive (isn't being used and hasn't been used) it shouldn't be "reaching out" at any time at all. <<

Mebbe, but...<grin>..  BTW, one qualification that I forgot to mention.  It's not ANY user account.  Rather it's any account that has administrator privileges.  In my case, my wife almost never gets on my computer but she has an account on it that has admin privileges.  Like you, I was having problems trying to get Reader to act right.  I kept disabling Reader's scheduler in MSCONFIG and it kept coming back.  I checked my wife's account and sure enough, it was set to update automatically.  Once I turned that off in her account, I was able to uncheck Reader scheduler in MSCONFIG permanently...  connie



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#13 of 18

     Posted Nov-2 2:29 AM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1973  Last Nov-20
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.13 Message 164711.13 replying to 164711.11 164711.11 ]    

Windows 7 version changes is different than Vista.  I confirmed with an MS rep on Thursday that ine can go from Home to Pro in Windows 7 - that was NOT possible in Vista.  According to the rep, the only difference between Pro and Ultimate was Bitlocker and the difference between Home and Pro was the numver of concurrrent connections and Domain joining.  The "Media Center: stuff is in all the versions this time around...

 

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#14 of 18

     Posted Nov-2 4:35 AM   
earle robinson
 
From  earle robinson  Posts 813  Last 6:44 AM
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164711.14 Message 164711.14 replying to 164711.13 164711.13 ]    
Pro lacks multilingual capability. Only ultimate has it.


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#15 of 18

     Posted Nov-2 10:12 AM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1973  Last Nov-20
To  earle robinson      [Msg # 164711.15 Message 164711.15 replying to 164711.14 164711.14 ]    

Ah.  Here in the US, that is most likely not a strong selling point.  That's probably why MS did not mention it...

 

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#16 of 18

     Posted Nov-2 7:26 PM   
groucho
 
From  groucho  Posts 1605  Last Nov-20
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164711.16 Message 164711.16 replying to 164711.13 164711.13 ]    

Choose the Windows 7
edition that is best for you

Installing Windows 7? Read this first.

Features
Picture of Windows 7 Home Premium box

Windows 7
Home Premium

Picture of Windows 7 Professional box

Windows 7
Professional

Picture of Windows 7 Ultimate box

Windows 7
Ultimate

Estimated Retail Pricing (ERP) for upgrade license.

Buy now $119.99

Buy now $199.99

Buy now $219.99

Make the things you do every day easier with improved desktop navigation. 

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Start programs faster and more easily, and quickly find 

 the documents you use most often.

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#17 of 18

     Posted Nov-2 8:19 PM   
Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)
 
From  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)  Posts 1973  Last Nov-20
To  groucho      [Msg # 164711.17 Message 164711.17 replying to 164711.16 164711.16 ]    

$20 difference, eh?  I had not noticed that before...

If you really want folks banging down the door, use PGP...  <smirck>

 

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#18 of 18

     Posted Nov-3 1:10 PM   
groucho
 
From  groucho  Posts 1605  Last Nov-20
To  Dale G. Shields (WUGNET)      [Msg # 164711.18 Message 164711.18 replying to 164711.17 164711.17 ]    

Has PGP come up with a setup and interface for plain human beings yet?<G>

If they'd just done that twenty years ago, they could have owned the world.

All I want to know--and all I think the average "appliance operator" should need to know is:

 

Enable encryption? Yes/No?

Enter passphrase: ____________________

Enter recovery passphrase, in case the universe ends: _________________

Print or save this information anywhere else? ______________________

 

End of story.

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