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Interfaith Issues

Glenn Beck -- Observing Yom Kippur?

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#1 of 80

     Posted Sep-21 8:46 PM   
Tobster E
 
From  Tobster E  Posts 1789  Last Jan-2
To  All      [Msg # 168151.1 ]    

Today Fox News Commentator Glenn Beck suggested that September 28th of this year, be a day of fasting and prayer for his supporters, the September 28th/Tea Baggers. He is free to do that, but that date is already scheduled for fast and prayer, it is called Yom Kippur. As a Jew, I know what I am going to be doing that day, but does this mean that all these people are going to convert????

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     Posted Sep-21 9:02 PM   
Patricia O.
 
From  Patricia O.  Posts 11794  Last 12:08 PM
To  Tobster E      [Msg # 168151.2 Message 168151.2 replying to 168151.1 168151.1 ]    
Apparently he has suggested (via Twitter and on his radio show) : Sept 28. Let's make it a day of Fast and Prayer for the Republic.  Spread the word.  Let us walk in the founders step.

Leave it to someone like him to try to co-opt one of the holiest days of the Jewish year.

In looking up his own faith background, it appears he was raised Roman Catholic, but became a Mormon years later with his second wife.  I don't know if he's still active in the LDS now.

Is a rightwing-Christian who calls for Fasting and Prayer on Yom Kippur insulting Judaism?  Or is it appropriate?



Edited Sep-21   by  Patricia O.
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     Posted Sep-21 9:09 PM   
Tobster E
 
From  Tobster E  Posts 1789  Last Jan-2
To  Patricia O.      [Msg # 168151.3 Message 168151.3 replying to 168151.2 168151.2 ]    

>>Leave it to someone like him to try to co-opt one of the holiest days of the Jewish year.

In looking up his own faith background, it appears he was raised Roman Catholic, but became a Mormon years later with his second wife. I don't know if he's still active in the LDS now.<<

I found out that the Tweet was over the weekend, but he discussed it on his program today, I am told. I don’t watch Fox at all. Is Beck going to send his reporters into Shuls and claim that we are all supporters? He might have problems with this because 1) he would be asked to leave, and 2) 78% of Jews voted for Barack Obama in the last election. I am claiming that he is planning on converting to Judaism.

BTW, where is Irv when we need him?

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     Posted Sep-21 10:20 PM   
Mel [Staff]
 
From  Mel [Staff]  Posts 19507  Last 9:53 AM
To  Tobster E      [Msg # 168151.4 Message 168151.4 replying to 168151.1 168151.1 ]    

>>He is free to do that, but that date is already scheduled for fast and prayer, it is called Yom Kippur. <<

Here's a link for those who might want to read more.  I couldn't find anything on Netscape news.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-keyak/glenn-beck-the-grinch-who_b_293792.html

Thanks for the wonderful seeder, Ma'am. 

My life has been a little busy with other things and my seeders seem to be fewer and fewer each month.




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#5 of 80

     Posted Sep-21 10:23 PM   
Tobster E
 
From  Tobster E  Posts 1789  Last Jan-2
To  Mel [Staff]      [Msg # 168151.5 Message 168151.5 replying to 168151.4 168151.4 ]    

>>My life has been a little busy with other things and my seeders seem to be fewer and fewer each month. <<

Oh, how did you know I am a sucker for the little ones. What a darling little one.(g)

I couldn’t resist the Beck thing. It was on Countdown and they showed a clip of Beck selling this. Am I wrong here, but is that weird, or weird?????

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     Posted Sep-21 10:29 PM   
Mel [Staff]
 
From  Mel [Staff]  Posts 19507  Last 9:53 AM
To  Tobster E      [Msg # 168151.6 Message 168151.6 replying to 168151.5 168151.5 ]    

>>Am I wrong here, but is that weird, or weird?????<<

I blame ignorance, perhaps arrogance, as the reason for the date chosen by Beck.

What he does next, for example apologize, will be a sign of his character.

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     Posted Sep-21 10:36 PM   
Tobster E
 
From  Tobster E  Posts 1789  Last Jan-2
To  Mel [Staff]      [Msg # 168151.7 Message 168151.7 replying to 168151.6 168151.6 ]    

>>I blame ignorance, perhaps arrogance, as the reason for the date chosen by Beck.

What he does next, for example apologize, will be a sign of his character. <<

Mel,
I thought he didn’t know what the date was too, but in his clip from his show, he mentioned Yom Kippur, he said something like the Founders of the Republic had a national day of fasting and prayer when we declared our Independence. Hmmm, the holiest day of the Jewish Religion, and he is trying to make a political football out of it. Doesn’t sit well with me, but I don’t like Beck anyway, he is too divisive.

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     Posted Sep-21 10:38 PM   
George A
 
From  George A  Posts 11715  Last 10:16 AM
To  Mel [Staff]      [Msg # 168151.8 Message 168151.8 replying to 168151.4 168151.4 ]    
>>My life has been a little busy with other things and my seeders seem to be fewer and fewer each month. <<

Yeah, we see that "little thing" who keeps you busy.<g>


Every government is a parliament of whores. 
The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us.


--P. J. O'Rourke


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#9 of 80

     Posted Sep-21 10:46 PM   
Mel [Staff]
 
From  Mel [Staff]  Posts 19507  Last 9:53 AM
To  George A      [Msg # 168151.9 Message 168151.9 replying to 168151.8 168151.8 ]    

>>Yeah, we see that "little thing" who keeps you busy.<g><<

It's been a while since I took a picture of her.  So, I took one tonight.

This last surgery, George, didn't go so well. Well, the surgery went well, the aftermath isn't a beach.

My wife is yelling at the doctor to do something, but I'm been down for a while. 
 

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#10 of 80

     Posted Sep-21 11:15 PM   
George A
 
From  George A  Posts 11715  Last 10:16 AM
To  Mel [Staff]      [Msg # 168151.10 Message 168151.10 replying to 168151.9 168151.9 ]    
>>This last surgery, George, didn't go so well. Well, the surgery went well, the aftermath isn't a beach. <<

Oh, bummer!  And I think I've got problems with this nagging mouth canker.<g>

My buddy got a new knee this summer, and it's coming along.  But the cancer he had a few years ago has come back and become cancer in his shoulder.

>>My wife is yelling at the doctor to do something, but I'm been down for a while. <<

Gimme his name, snail and e-mail addresses, and phone number and we'll get a up a party to yell at him.


Every government is a parliament of whores. 
The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us.


--P. J. O'Rourke


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#11 of 80

     Posted Sep-22 9:06 AM   
Cassy B. [Staff]
 
From  Cassy B. [Staff]  Posts 15967  Last 8:26 AM
To  Mel [Staff]      [Msg # 168151.11 Message 168151.11 replying to 168151.4 168151.4 ]    
Mel,

My life has been a little busy with other things and my seeders seem to be fewer and fewer each month.


The Little Drummer Girl! (Molly just keeps getting cuter and cuter....)

Cassy
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     Posted Sep-22 10:16 AM   
Mark Mc
 
From  Mark Mc  Posts 12157  Last 6:35 AM
To  Mel [Staff]      [Msg # 168151.12 Message 168151.12 replying to 168151.9 168151.9 ]    
>>>This last surgery, George, didn't go so well. Well, the surgery went well, the aftermath isn't a beach. <<<

Sorry to hear that, Mel.  All you can do is all you can do, though. 

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     Posted Sep-23 2:38 AM   
Irv & Shoshana Feldman
 
From  Irv & Shoshana Feldman  Posts 4226  Last 1:03 PM
To  Tobster E      [Msg # 168151.13 Message 168151.13 replying to 168151.3 168151.3 ]    

>>Leave it to someone like him to try to co-opt one of the holiest days of the Jewish year.

In looking up his own faith background, it appears he was raised Roman Catholic, but became a Mormon years later with his second wife. I don't know if he's still active in the LDS now.<

I found out that the Tweet was over the weekend, but he discussed it on his program today, I am told. I don’t watch Fox at all. Is Beck going to send his reporters into Shuls and claim that we are all supporters? He might have problems with this because 1) he would be asked to leave, and 2) 78% of Jews voted for Barack Obama in the last election. I am claiming that he is planning on converting to Judaism.

BTW, where is Irv when we need him?<

I don't watch Glenn Beck either though I do watch the news on FOX because they broacast the truth rather than the approved Riyadhian version. I don't trust guys like Beck.

Irv

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     Posted Sep-23 3:54 AM   
Mel [Staff]
 
From  Mel [Staff]  Posts 19507  Last 9:53 AM
To  Irv & Shoshana Feldman      [Msg # 168151.14 Message 168151.14 replying to 168151.13 168151.13 ]    

>>I don't trust guys like Beck.<<

Mormons?


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     Posted Sep-23 8:41 AM   
Irv & Shoshana Feldman
 
From  Irv & Shoshana Feldman  Posts 4226  Last 1:03 PM
To  Mel [Staff]      [Msg # 168151.15 Message 168151.15 replying to 168151.14 168151.14 ]    
>>I don't trust guys like Beck.<

Mormons?<

It has nothing to do with his faith. It has to do with what he preaches and the way he preaches it.

Irv
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     Posted Sep-23 9:35 AM   
Tobster E
 
From  Tobster E  Posts 1789  Last Jan-2
To  Irv & Shoshana Feldman      [Msg # 168151.16 Message 168151.16 replying to 168151.13 168151.13 ]    

>>I don't watch Glenn Beck either though I do watch the news on FOX because they broacast the truth rather than the approved Riyadhian version. I don't trust guys like Beck.<<

So, what should the Jewish attitude be towards this nonsense? If, as you say, non Jews can be killed for celebrating Shabbat, what happen with Yom Kippur?

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     Posted Sep-23 5:19 PM   
Irv & Shoshana Feldman
 
From  Irv & Shoshana Feldman  Posts 4226  Last 1:03 PM
To  Tobster E      [Msg # 168151.17 Message 168151.17 replying to 168151.16 168151.16 ]    

>>I don't watch Glenn Beck either though I do watch the news on FOX because they broacast the truth rather than the approved Riyadhian version. I don't trust guys like Beck.<

So, what should the Jewish attitude be towards this nonsense? If, as you say, non Jews can be killed for celebrating Shabbat, what happen with Yom Kippur?<

The answer to your question really revolves around the ouropose of the Fast. If it is to observe Yom Kippur, the non-Jew is guilty of trying to follow the Torah. If it is for other purposes, then, he probably isn't guilty. In nay case such a snetence is not carried out against a non-Jew by Jews. It is carried out by Hashem himself who clearly made the distinction between Jews and non-Jews.

Irv

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     Posted Sep-23 9:48 PM   
Tobster E
 
From  Tobster E  Posts 1789  Last Jan-2
To  Irv & Shoshana Feldman      [Msg # 168151.18 Message 168151.18 replying to 168151.17 168151.17 ]    

>>The answer to your question really revolves around the ouropose of the Fast. If it is to observe Yom Kippur, the non-Jew is guilty of trying to follow the Torah. If it is for other purposes, then, he probably isn't guilty. In nay case such a snetence is not carried out against a non-Jew by Jews. It is carried out by Hashem himself who clearly made the distinction between Jews and non-Jews.<<

Maybe if people fasted and prayed, the hatred in the world would disappear.

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     Posted Sep-24 1:52 AM   
John
 
From  John  Posts 8727  Last Feb-8
To  Tobster E      [Msg # 168151.19 Message 168151.19 replying to 168151.18 168151.18 ]    

>>Maybe if people fasted and prayed, the hatred in the world would disappear.<<

Isn't it implicit within your comment that if people believed in a monotheistic religion where there is one true God, and practiced what is taught within that spiritual tradition, e.g., fasting and prayer, then hatred in the world would disappear?

Or am I misunderstanding your comment?

--John

 


"Do I contradict myself?
  Very well then I contradict myself,
  (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
                                 ---Walt Whitman

 


Edited Sep-24   by  John
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     Posted Sep-24 2:47 AM   
Mel [Staff]
 
From  Mel [Staff]  Posts 19507  Last 9:53 AM
To  John      [Msg # 168151.20 Message 168151.20 replying to 168151.19 168151.19 ]    

>>Isn't it implicit within your comment that if people believed in a monotheistic religion where there is one true God, and practiced what is taught within that spiritual tradition, e.g., fasting and prayer, then hatred in the world would disappear?<<

Good point,  I know several people who fast and pray to end hatred.  I don't see how it has made a difference.




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